Highfields Seagull
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I was almost bored to death during the Blair Witch Project
Highfields Seagull said:I was almost bored to death during the Blair Witch Project
Papa Lazarou said:I was too shocked to answer this myself.. we are all entitled to our opinions, and I think that Braveheart was a travesty. It's not the alteration of history that annoys me, it's more Hollywood's bias against the English at every turn.
Take the Patriot for example - there's a sequence in that where the English general orders the execution of every man in a particulat town. Now this did happen, but actually in the 2nd world war, and it was the German's who perpetrated the crime against (i beleive) a French village.
Just not worth discussing really.
Easy 10 said:Well if go to watch a movie with a history book tucked under your arm, then thats up to you. Personally, I go to be entertained, not to pick holes in whether "this" actually happened, or whether "that" actually happened. It's just a bloody movie, it's not supposed to be a cinamatic essay on the history of 14th Century Scotland, or whatever.
Criticising a movie on that level just smacks of snobbery.
True, but then their ignorance of the true facts is their problem, not ours, or at least thats how I see it. Anyone stupid enough to take a film as being gospel of the facts is hardly worthy of getting worked up about.bhaexpress said:Not really, Hollywood has a nasty habit of slanting things and distorting the facts. Please understand that the average AMerican know sod all about anybody's history including their own rather short one so they will take flims like Braveheart and The Patriot as gospel.
I might mention U571 where a bunch of brave Americans capture a vital Enigma machine from a sinking submarine. Accurate in every part save one, the part about the Americans doing it. It was a British crew that actually did it in reality. The makers of Titanic had to pay compensation to descendants of several members of the real crew thanks to their defamitory portrayal of them.
Easy 10 said:Well if you go to watch a movie with a history book tucked under your arm, then thats up to you. Personally, I go to be entertained, not to pick holes in whether "this" actually happened, or whether "that" actually happened. It's just a bloody movie, it's not supposed to be a cinamatic essay on the history of 14th Century Scotland, or whatever.
Criticising a movie on that level just smacks of snobbery. As far as the anti-english stuff goes, I can't say I lose any sleep over it.
Easy 10 said:Well if you go to watch a movie with a history book tucked under your arm, then thats up to you. Personally, I go to be entertained, not to pick holes in whether "this" actually happened, or whether "that" actually happened. It's just a bloody movie, it's not supposed to be a cinamatic essay on the history of 14th Century Scotland, or whatever.
Criticising a movie on that level just smacks of snobbery. As far as the anti-english stuff goes, I can't say I lose any sleep over it.
tedebear said:who me or him?? I met him and I didn't like him just MHO...
Meade's_Ball said:I suppose its a case of feeling cheated and that the filmmakers have been lazy. if they're claiming the gravitas of historical fact as a selling point, which the makers of Braveheart did, then they have to deliver.
I understand your point, but there's people going to the cinema for all sorts of reasons. All as valid as the next. EVen snobs like me.
Easy 10 said:True, but then their ignorance of the true facts is their problem, not ours, or at least thats how I see it. Anyone stupid enough to take a film as being gospel of the facts is hardly worthy of getting worked up about.
Easy 10 said:Not sure about Braveheart being sold as being of genuine historical gravitas - they're hardly going to say "very little of this actually happened, but there's lots of naughty englishmen and fighting anyway". It depends on the expectations of the viewer I suppose, but anyone expecting a history lesson from Hollywood is being more than a little naiive I'd say.
Take it for what it is - a piece of entertainment loosely based around some historical events - and leave it at that. I'll accept is shite if its poorly paced and boring, if the acting is rubbish, the effects are crap, etc etc. But I won't accept that a film is shite just cos it doesn't stick absolutely to the history books (which often give different accounts of the same events anyway, depending which one you read).