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He did a good job at Brighton, he said so himself.
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[Football] West ham and Potter
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He’s been there for … a week, ffs.
How come the same people moaning about these quotes are the same one who doesn't give a shit about Roberto De Zerbi trashtalking the club publicly in media for month?
Oh yes because he talked trash every week about Brighton & Hove Albion, which is "ambitious". A throwaway comment on the fans is perceived as worse, because Brighton & Hove Albion is the only club in the world where the fans think they're bigger, more beautiful and more important than their club.
Thats how a throwaway comment about a very entitled fanbase boos are more upsetting than someone on a weekly basis humiliating the club over how small and bad it is.
Guess its a consequence of the rough 90s. A lot of guys used the club as a vehicle to boost their own thoughts about their own importance and they're eager to rally behind anyone saying the club, its owner, its ambitions, its size, its model is trash because they got a kick out of doing those things themselves ages ago.
Thats the only real sad thing about it. The guy who spent three years working hard to make the team function is seen as a knob and the guy who spent 1.5 years expressing how small and unambitious the club in order to look better himself is is seen as a club legend. It really says a lot unfortunately, and not about Potter or De Zerbi.
Thanks for the history lesson
This!
No problem. All the hundreds of people in here who spent the spring moaning about Tony Bloom for a lack of ambition seriously need a history lesson or two, when they've done their "basic manners" courses where you learn to appreciate someone spending £400m on your football club.
Terry Butcher Tribute Act
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A strong algorithm combined with a dogshit Swedish league have given him and his disciples a false impression of how much talent he actually has. Well, that and doing f*** all for 2 years.
Look forward to the history lesson.
Look forward to the history lesson.
The strong algorithm that identified him?
Between 1902 and 1989 there were five West Ham managers. Incredible.
Don‘t be surprised if they get through three in a 12-month period over 2024/25.
Their fans have been whipped up into believing their club is something special, despite not winning anything of significance for 45 years.
An increasingly unlikeable club.
Don‘t be surprised if they get through three in a 12-month period over 2024/25.
Their fans have been whipped up into believing their club is something special, despite not winning anything of significance for 45 years.
An increasingly unlikeable club.
Ike and Tina Burner
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Christ, there were ISIS suicide bombers less committed to their cause than you are to yours. Why you have decided to become such a zealot over a bang average English manager, who's also the most boring bloke alive, I do not know. It's actually quite admirable in a way.
De Zerbi became a club legend through actually achieving things at this football club (qualifying for Europe, being two kicks from an FA Cup final appearance, reaching the knockout stage of the Europa League, smashing Palace at home, kicking Potter’s arse when he bought his Chelsea team here). It ended sourly but we had great times with him.
Potter’s greatest achievement here was working out that Moises Caicedo might be worth picking. The best time we had was a six month purple patch which ended abruptly when he f***ed off and took half the club staff with him.
And the same one that hired De Zerbi.
Yes. And your point is?
Can’t you work it out?
I've explained why many times. Football is first and foremost recreation and relief for children all over the world. Every time a manager throws a ref under the bus, it hurts children. Every time a manager throws players under the bus, it hurts children. Every time a manager tells his players to dive or waste time, it hurts children. I saw the Jose Mourinho revolution up close and personal when I was a very young coach. Normal arse teenage fathers suddenly starting to make cocky comments to their own players and whatnot.
The fixation with results and achieving them by any means is the common thing in football today. A lot of parents are brainwashed into putting their kids into acadamies etc because they don't understand what football is about, they think its about becoming a top player and not about having a good time. Because that the attitude nearly all coaches have.
But I want children to think football is fun and healthy so I appreciate managers who take responsibility for sports and its role in society. Like Potter and a handful of others.
He's already shown that the pennalistic pedagogics that exist in top football is a suboptimal way of doing things. Its been proven for 70+ years that negative reinforcement isn't as effective as positive, and I think its important that the emotional, infantile and incompetent football establishment realise this as well rather than going with your average screaming petulant "fun to watch on the sideline" coach like Mou, Conte or RDZ.
People in England will never appreciate those things though. The culture of pennalism and scapegoating is both ingrained and something people actually believe works.
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
Dan Gardner Asworth’s recommendation wasn’t it?
