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Vote Tory for a..umm...err..we sort of might have a sort of referendum on Europe.
- Thread starter Bevendean Hillbilly
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I wonder if it would be possible to debate this (& many other subjects) without anyone mentioning the Daily Mail in a patronising way? I understand that people have different views to me but don't feel the need to smugly suggest they purely form their opinions based upon reading a newspaper I don't like
Hellenika einai poly diskolo kai olla Hellades millai Anglika.
I can read Greek, which is more than my girlfriend could do, and she was English-born and educated and raised bi-lingual by two Greek parents.
You asked if I spoke fluent Greek, and the answer is no, but that doesn't mean I don't speak enough Greek to get by in restaurants, council offices, the hairdressers', etc. Of course I speak Greek, but not enough to have a long discourse. Besides, whenever we walked into a restaurant or shop, the staff took one look at us and immediately spoke English to us. Most Greeks speak English and switch from Greek - English - Greek without flinching. If I did open up a conversation in Greek, they would assume I was fluent, and they were off! Zooooooooooom! Gabbling away in Greek so fast, you couldn't keep up with them.
I had few Greek friends, and those I did have were happy to speak English all the time. Most of the establishments we used, the staff were delighted to practice their English, except in hairdressers, where little English was spoken. I learnt much of my Greek from my hairdresser. We didn't watch Greek TV, we watched Sky. I didn't have children who were at school and needed to learn Greek, so there was never much opportunity to practice what I had learnt from two years at Greek language school. I probably understand and speak Greek more than I think I do, but I had little chance to practice.
And I do get your point. As a bit of a linguist, I was disappointed that I didn't get the opportunity to use more Greek than I did and because of that, was a little ashamed that I couldn't speak to them in their own language. Having said that, they wouldn't let me!
As to being bored, no, I wasn't really. There are only so many coffee bars you can visit during the weekend. We had loads of holidays, of course, and weekends away, but it was either that, or save the money for when we came back home. We chose all the holidays, while we had the chance. Most of the time, I did my research, so I was rarely bored.
A lot of these patronising comments are now just a cliche among people who try to sound clever by making the Daily Mail and its readers sound stupid. Few of them have ever read the Mail, so actually know nothing about it. In denigrating the Mail in this way, they actually admit to their own ignorance and prejudice. They like to sound superior, as if they only read the Telegraph, when they are probably Sun readers, or subscribers to the Morning Star, or, at best, Guardian readers, who are about as realistic as the Green Party.
Agreed it is patronising to categorise people based on the newspaper they read.. oh hang on wait a sec...
Why is it patronising? Why do you assume that those who criticise the Mail and its readers haven't read it? I've read it many times (e.g. due to being in places like some hotels or waiting rooms where it's the only choice) and, despite knowing its reputation, I've always been deeply shocked by what appears to me as its insular, populist, zenophobic, smug, and narrow-minded tone.
The website is even worse
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It is patronising the way some posters on here smugly say "you sound like a Daily Mail reader" or something similar just because you express a view they don't agree with. Anyone who opposes mass immigration or the EU is immediately dismissed as a "Daily Mail" reader in a way that suggests that they have no intelligence & blindly follows what they read in a newspaper.
Funny that. The only place where I can get by without any English is my hairdressers. I speak 100% German to them: hallo, halb,.........(5 minutes pass)................, auf weidersehen.
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I suspect thats because anyone with a moderate amount of education and or intelligence realizes we are all just human beings trying to get along. The anti EU brigade constantly spout the same xenophobic drivel that seems to come straight out of the editorial of the daily hate
You know theres flood of eastern european transgender 1 legged skunk smoking thieves coming over to steal our jobs whilst claiming every benifit going and doing shoddy work on the grounds they are inferior to us Brits
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It's going to be an absolute binfest. All the Tory backbenchers are cheering Dave for offering the referendum although officially Dave wants us in Europe, under his terms. So when he gets what he wants there may well not be a referendum after all. Because he is offering this referendum " after winning the next General Election " its a ploy to get all the disaffected Tories back from UKIP. So, pretty much nothing to worry about.
Can someone remind me which was the only British newspaper to support the Nazis during the 1930s?
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Dont mention Ze war.....
What about the whole German nation? Or is it just the Daily Mail your after?
Sorry, didn't realise the German nation was a British newspaper
I am a bit confused with that as well.
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5 minutes pass ? What do they get up to ? the crossword or something ? You're bald as a f***ing coot !!
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Sorry , didnt realise people or newspapers could change in the course of 70 plus f***ing years !!
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No one is claiming that , yours is just the standard post of someone without the wit or wherewithal to give a plausible explanation as to why exactly its a good thing that we've had thousands if not millions of european immigrants here undercutting the wages of native workers ?? Contrary to the popular opinion , the majority of the influx of eastern europeans have beeen unskilled , directly affecting the very people the traitor new labour c*nts claim to represent.
But that's the thing really, the Mail hasn't changed its core values, even if the words it uses are different these days.