[Albion] Vile racist language in the South Stand

[birthofanorange]

I think it's pretty reasonable to be offended by racist abuse regardless of who says it...

Indeed, but will you feel comfortable punishing someone who may well be incapable of understanding that? Perhaps show a little understanding, instead - or is that beyond you?

 

[birthofanorange]

Whataboutary

I’ve heard racist chanting from Albion fans and they have been immediately called out and told to shut up by others around them.
Colchester away on the terrace and Reading away on the concourse, both happened in the Withdean years.
Not sure I have ever heard anyone shouting about raping anyone at a match.

And you say "Whataboutary"....hilarious.

 

[BN9 BHA]

And you say "Whataboutary"....hilarious.

I suggest you go back and read exactly what you asked me, you’re not doing very well here.

 

[birthofanorange]

I suggest you go back and read exactly what you asked me, you’re not doing very well here.

Doing fine, thanks - not interested in what happens to non-autistic fans, in a scenario as described in the OP. but you crack on.

 

[BN9 BHA]

Doing fine, thanks - not interested in what happens to non-autistic fans, in a scenario as described in the OP. but you crack on.

You said….. “I’m sure you’ve heard equally vile stuff from people with no excuse other than drink/drugs”
I was giving an example that I had……and they were called out by fellow fans.

If you don’t want my opinion don’t ask me. Odd

 

[TugWilson]

All i will say is no one else within ear shot has said a word on this , why put up with this until halftime ? , no pictures or sound recorded ? , 61 posts in 7 years ? . Straight after brianwade

 

[birthofanorange]

You said….. “I’m sure you’ve heard equally vile stuff from people with no excuse other than drink/drugs”
I was giving an example that I had……and they were called out by fellow fans.

If you don’t want my opinion don’t ask me. Odd

Yes, I'm sure they were, and rightly so. However, to be offended by similar words by someone with autism and attach the same level of offence is more than ridiculous....it's actually offensive.
Don't you think?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

If that was the case, what do you propose? Euthanasia?

If your kid has a mental health issue that means they have a compulsion to put their hand up a woman's skirt, neither euthanasia, nor giving the the kid free range to cause offense at the football are acceptable. They shouldn't be at the football.

 

[birthofanorange]

If your kid has a mental health issue that means you have a compulsion to put your hand up a woman's skirt, neither euthanasia, nor giving the the kid free range to cause offense at the football are acceptable. They shouldn't be at the football.

I'm very surprised by your comment - disappointed, too.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

I know f all about autism, but I don't think this should be any defence against removal from a football ground if there's proven racism. Otherwise everyone would be claiming it.

Again, it is the the entire party should be removed. I'm totally confident the club will ban them.

Can I suggest you find out before making up your mind ? There are several parents of autistic children on this thread who will be living and breathing it so at the very least it is worth doing your own research to try to understand the issue better. I have some experience teaching in this field. It is a complex issue and a bit of tolerance would do no harm.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

If your kid has a mental health issue that means you have a compulsion to put your hand up a woman's skirt, neither euthanasia, nor giving the the kid free range to cause offense at the football are acceptable. They shouldn't be at the football.

I’m a bit sad about this post by you, Harry.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

OK then. I'm afraid that I am rather cynical and defensive when I hear autism being used as an excuse for bad behaviour. The fact that he could suddenly control himself in the second half suggests a lack of parental/responsible adult control rather than any issues that the lad may have. Autistic people usually love rules so they should make some for him.

I think that is exactly what 99% of the rest of us think. Any kid using racist abuse in front of their parents know it is condoned by their parents.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Can I suggest you find out before making up your mind ? There are several parents of autistic children on this thread who will be living and breathing it so at the very least it is worth doing your own research to try to understand the issue better. I have some experience teaching in this field. It is a complex issue and a bit of tolerance would do no harm.

And some of us have it. I know of at least 3 on NSC.

 

[BN9 BHA]

Yes, I'm sure they were, and rightly so. However, to be offended by similar words by someone with autism and attach the same level of offence is more than ridiculous....it's actually offensive.
Don't you think?

I’m more shocked and surprised than offended, I wasn’t in that part of the ground and didn’t hear what happened, think it would be wrong to say I’m offended.

I’m sorry if I have hit a nerve with you about your family.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Can I suggest you find out before making up your mind ? There are several parents of autistic children on this thread who will be living and breathing it so at the very least it is worth doing your own research to try to understand the issue better. I have some experience teaching in this field. It is a complex issue and a bit of tolerance would do no harm.

Not being intolerant at all. I just don't buy that it's a genuine reason for the racism and threats which of sexual violence which the op outlined

 

[BN9 BHA]

I'm very surprised by your comment - disappointed, too.

He’s right

 

[birthofanorange]

I’m more shocked and surprised than offended, I wasn’t in that part of the ground and didn’t hear what happened, think it would be wrong to say I’m offended.

I’m sorry if I have hit a nerve with you about your family.

Oh, I assumed it was your family, rather than mine.

 

[birthofanorange]

He’s right

In your head, I'm sure he is.

 

[BN9 BHA]

Oh, I assumed it was your family, rather than mine.

You have lost me now, I think you know what I meant.

 

[birthofanorange]

You have lost me now, I think you know what I meant.

Not at all - I have no idea why you mentioned my family.