[Albion] Vile racist language in the South Stand

[dazzer6666]

Autism isn't a mental health condition and racism isn't a symptom of autism.

As noted the language stopped after stewards got involved.

It isn’t, but you’re much more likely to experience MH issues if you’re autistic

 

[BN9 BHA]

I'm sure you've heard equally vile stuff from people with no excuse, other than drink/drugs.
Cut a person with genuine mental health problems some slack. Jeez.

Whataboutary

I’ve heard racist chanting from Albion fans and they have been immediately called out and told to shut up by others around them.
Colchester away on the terrace and Reading away on the concourse, both happened in the Withdean years.
Not sure I have ever heard anyone shouting about raping anyone at a match.

 

[KZNSeagull]

Yes, we ALL learnt some horrible stuff at that kind of age, the difference is, we were (mostly) able to understand how wrong it was, whereas this person clearly doesn't.
Seriously, what would you do - have everyone with these issues confined to their house until they 'learn' to not offend you? What if they never did? Keep them away forever?

No. Give him some rules. If he is autistic, he will love you for it. As he didn't swear at all in the second half, perhaps someone did.

 

[dazzer6666]

Whataboutary

I’ve heard racist chanting from Albion fans and they have been immediately called out and told to shut up by others around them.
Colchester away on the terrace and Reading away on the concourse, both happened in the Withdean years.
Not sure I have ever heard anyone shouting about raping anyone at a match.

‘She said no, Lewis’ last week ?

 

[albionalex]

It's pretty simple - you're suggesting that people with mental heath issues (as demonstrated in the OP) should not be inclusive - or have I got that wrong?
If so, I apologise.

Where do you draw the line? If the person was physically abusive would it also not be inclusive to remove them from the stadium?

Yes, physically....not perceived 'offence'.

Racism is against the law, regardless if any offence was 'perceived'.

 

[BN9 BHA]

It’s a discussion board, you don’t get to choose

I asked that poster about his point and use of emoji, he answered the questions.
Thank you

 

[birthofanorange]

Correct. Autistic people usually love rules. This lad clearly does not have anyone around him to create these rules.

That's an assumption - there are many levels of autism, where some may well respond to set rules, and others do not.

 

[Billy the Fish]

Correct. Autistic people usually love rules.

It's all hearsay. Nobody has a clue about this kids' actual situation. You're all making assumptions based on a short conversation the OP had with some stewards, and posted on here. This conversation doesn't need to happen in public, on this forum.

 

[BN9 BHA]

‘She said no, Lewis’ last week ?

I wasn’t there last week, I was walking on the South Downs, my hearing isn’t that good.

 

[birthofanorange]

Racism is against the law, regardless if any offence was 'perceived'.

In general terms, yes, but just try taking someone with autism to court, based on that - see how far you get.

 

[dazzer6666]

I wasn’t there last week, I was walking on the South Downs, my hearing isn’t that good.

Ah ok, you didn’t hear it so it didn’t happen

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

No. Give him some rules. If he is autistic, he will love you for it.

There you go grouping all autistic people together again.

One of my autistic children loves rules, is eager to please etc, the other one will struggle to follow them, especially at times he’s very stressed.

Yes a majority of autistic people will follow rules or instructions to the word, but not all of them.

 

[BN9 BHA]

Ah ok, you didn’t hear it so it didn’t happen

I don’t know what you are on about TBH, I thought you were asking me if I heard something at the match last week.

 

[birthofanorange]

No. Give him some rules. If he is autistic, he will love you for it. As he didn't swear at all in the second half, perhaps someone did.

Perhaps he just chose not to, also.
Your comment above reads as someone who has no clue at all, as to what they are talking about. Please be tolerant and encourage the same with your family - the world would be a slightly better place if you did.

 

[beorhthelm]

If I'm reading the above correctly, you (and daughter) were offended by the language used by someone who is autistic?
I would suggest that you learn (and teach) tolerance for those who have mental health issues, rather than wanting them removed.
It could just as easily have been you, having such a troubled child. Think on that.

suggest you re-read, they didnt know anything about the autism until after the fact.
i dont buy this as a reason either, 8 yo dont learn such abusive language themselves. imo this is abusing of people's instant acceptance of autism to explain away any bad behaviour.

 

[birthofanorange]

suggest you re-read, they didnt know anything about the autism until after the fact.
i dont buy this as a reason either, 8 yo dont learn such abusive language. imo this is abusing of people's instant acceptance of autism to explain away any bad behaviour.

Your opinion is noted and dismissed as bollocks.

 

[albionalex]

In general terms, yes, but just try taking someone with autism to court, based on that - see how far you get.

If they were repeatedly committing a crime and after intervention did not stop committing that crime, then they would be charged in court appropriately under either criminal legislation or mental health legislation.

 

[TugWilson]

Not at all - I fully imagine he would not know this language if he were your son. If he did then you would be a better parent for not putting allowing other children to hear this. Maybe he should be in a different section for complex needs to be closely monitored. This must not be allowed irrespective of an individual needs. Utterly disgusted...

Yet you allowed this to happen until halftime ?

 

[LamieRobertson]

It's all hearsay. Nobody has a clue about this kids' actual situation. You're all making assumptions based on a short conversation the OP had with some stewards, and posted on here. This conversation doesn't need to happen in public, on this forum.

I’m inclined to agree…I wonder what the OP hoped to achieve by starting a thread….if aggrieved maybe follow up the action he has taken at HT, by writing to the club about the bad experience he and his daughter have suffered …imho

 

[birthofanorange]

If they were repeatedly committing a crime and after intervention did not stop committing that crime, then they would be charged in court appropriately under either criminal legislation or mental health legislation.

Are they repeatedly committing a crime? What intervention occurred? Will they do it again? All pointless supposition and it all boils down to intolerance of folk who are different.
Shameful.