[Albion] Vile racist language in the South Stand

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Autism, Tourettes or not, I do not believe a 7 or 8 year old would talk/shout/rant about raping someone up the arse inless they'd heard it - probably repeatedly - said by eople around them.

This, how the hell does a 7 or 8 year old know what rape is and the context to build it into an insulting threat?

That’s a red flag for me.

 

[brighton_dave]

If I'm reading the above correctly, you (and daughter) were offended by the language used by someone who is autistic?
I would suggest that you learn (and teach) tolerance for those who have mental health issues, rather than wanting them removed.
It could just as easily have been you, having such a troubled child. Think on that.

This is the last one I will bite on. As I stated, I also have a daughter with severe ADHD and fully understand how difficult behavioural issues are as having been through years of very challenging times, times where you question living and take meds to get you through. This doesn't mean you down tools and think sod it, you continue to parent and make them the best person they can be. You can only do so much as a parent but the terms I have referred to would never be heard of or accepted in our household. I'm a massive advocate of mental health too so please take your wild assumptions away with you.

 

[dazzer6666]

Eh?
What is your point exactly?
What’s the angry face about?

Different people, different perspective, different ‘rules’.

 

[KZNSeagull]

Some do, some don't - are you assuming that all autistic people are the same.....just like we are?

No, we don't all obey the rules either do we? Racism and swearing is learnt behaviour and at the age of 7 he is clearly copying that from somewhere.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

You've used the term "cause upset" when the person said "f off blackies"

That is a long way past causing upset

The person I was quoting used the same phrase, hence me using it.

 

[BN9 BHA]

It's pretty simple - you're suggesting that people with mental heath issues (as demonstrated in the OP) should not be inclusive - or have I got that wrong?
If so, I apologise.

If they are shouting out horrible abuse about raping up the arse and racist language they should have been immediately removed from the stand by their parents/ carer.
Sorry it’s not acceptable.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

There's a sensory room at the Amex that was kitted out as part of AITC. Maybe that would be an option for this fella watching the game?

 

[birthofanorange]

This is the last one I will bite on. As I stated, I also have a daughter with severe ADHD and fully understand how difficult behavioural issues are as having been through years of very challenging times, times where you question living and take meds to get you through. This doesn't mean you down tools and think sod it, you continue to parent and make them the best person they can be. You can only do so much as a parent but the terms I have referred to would never be heard of or accepted in our household. I'm a massive advocate of mental health too so please take your wild assumptions away with you.

No wild assumptions here, simply responding to what I consider to be an intolerant post, especially given what you have just written above.

 

[BN9 BHA]

Different people, different perspective, different ‘rules’.

I wasn’t asking you

 

[birthofanorange]

If they are shouting out horrible abuse about raping up the arse and racist language they should have been immediately removed from the stand by their parents/ carer.
Sorry it’s not acceptable.

I'm sure you've heard equally vile stuff from people with no excuse, other than drink/drugs.
Cut a person with genuine mental health problems some slack. Jeez.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I would just like to point out that my autistic son of 23 has never, ever sworn in his entire life.

I’m no expert but I thought simple skills, e.g. right and wrong, can be taught to the vast majority of children with autism?

 

[jonny.rainbow]

As has been posted, spouting vile racist and sexually aggressive language is not a symptom of a neurological condition.

If the child has developed these verbal tics then a family oriented venue is not the place for him.

I would fully back the club if they made the decision to ban him and his carers.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

‘BHA at centre of storm for banning disabled fan and parents’………

Can’t make that kind of call without knowing the full circumstances. I know a couple of Tourettes sufferers who will shout obscenities in otherwise totally inappropriate places/circumstances…..should they be banned from food shopping ?

If they’re fat, yes, but this is a different discussion.

 

[Billy the Fish]

This thread

Do people view life like it's a game of top trumps?

Racism obviously tops mental health so we can all forget about empathy and understanding in this situation, just scream for a policeman.

 

[albionalex]

It's pretty simple - you're suggesting that people with mental heath issues (as demonstrated in the OP) should not be inclusive - or have I got that wrong?
If so, I apologise.

Where do you draw the line? If the person was physically abusive would it also not be inclusive to remove them from the stadium?

 

[KZNSeagull]

I’m no expert but I thought simple skills, e.g. right and wrong, can be taught to the vast majority of children with autism?

Correct. Autistic people usually love rules. This lad clearly does not have anyone around him to create these rules.

 

[birthofanorange]

No, we don't all obey the rules either do we? Racism and swearing is learnt behaviour and at the age of 7 he is clearly copying that from somewhere.

Yes, we ALL learnt some horrible stuff at that kind of age, the difference is, we were (mostly) able to understand how wrong it was, whereas this person clearly doesn't.
Seriously, what would you do - have everyone with these issues confined to their house until they 'learn' to not offend you? What if they never did? Keep them away forever?

 

[pocketseagull]

Autism isn't a mental health condition and racism isn't a symptom of autism.

As noted the language stopped after stewards got involved.

 

[birthofanorange]

Where do you draw the line? If the person was physically abusive would it also not be inclusive to remove them from the stadium?

Yes, physically....not perceived 'offence'.

 

[dazzer6666]

I wasn’t asking you

It’s a discussion board, you don’t get to choose