UKIP Foster Parents

[Nibble]

Yes, absolutely. If you think it right to judge someone a good parent based on their political views then the logical conclusion is that you think all children of UKIP and BNP should be taken into care immediately for their own good.

You need to read more carefuly Buzzer. I think it's fair to say that the vast majority of people contributing to this thread are against the children being removed from the foster parents.

 

[The Spanish]

You need to read more carefuly Buzzer. I think it's fair to say that the vast majority of people contributing to this thread are against the children being removed from the foster parents.

i would also be intrigued to find out why they are in the care of the local authority as well.

poor little sods. some linda bellos type playing god with a couple of kids due to her half baked politics. and people on here are coating ukip supporters for being politically dubious.

 

[Nibble]

I don't like UKIP but I dislike the idea of government interfering in your right to foster children and support UKIP even more.

 

[The Spanish]

I don't like UKIP but I dislike the idea of government interfering in your right to foster children and support UKIP even more.

you shouldnt dislike you should be absolutely livid. there is a very sinister culture currently sweeping the nation, and people assume its for the good. people thought that initially about a lot of historical political phenomena that turned out to be f***ing disasters.

 

[User removed 4]

Read the UKIP manifesto where they state asylum seekers will be held in secure centres. Once again you totally fail to refute anything I said on a factual basis. Restrictions of the free movement of labour and none on the movement of capital and you still struggle to identify Farage as a typical right-wing con artist?

So what ?? If you were an asylum seeker genuinely in fear of your life , i'm quite sure a place where you are fed, clothed, kept warm and dry and given entertainment such as access to a gym, library and tv and videos would seem like paradise compared to wherever you are fleeing from , dont try to portray these places as some sort of guantanamo bay because thats total and utter rubbish, there certainly needs to be something done , perhaps you can comment on the amount of asylum seekers who have quite simply disappeared , or the "asylum seekers" that i know , who go back to congo for a holiday several times a year , so terrified of the persecution and violence they face there.

 

[User removed 4]

It is out of line if the sole reason the children have been removed is the foster parents political views then that is unacceptable. Funny how the racists on this board, Das Reich, Bushy et al are up in arms about these people's human rights when normally if anyone on here makes an argument for human rights we are suddenly lefty Guardianista's who want to see the U.K under Sharia Law and run by fundamentalists with hooks for hands and a tendancy to pour acid on their womenfolk.As for UKIP, BNP etc, again the racists on this board are naive enough to think that UKIP is the "acceptable" face of politically endorsed racism. Yes, UKIP have marketed themselves as alternative and if we wnat change then we have to vote differntly. Well I do want change but I certainly don't want a change to UKIP.

The more nationalistic on this board seem to have done no real research into UKIP's policies, if they had they would realise they are not that far removed from the BNP, both single isue parties, both clueless on how to govern a country. I suspect Das REich, Bushy etc would like to vocalise their support for BNP but know they will be ridiculed and rightly so, so they stupidly see UKIP as some alternative. Well no, they are both fundamentally racist parties run by fools.

Where and when have either I or das reich mentioned human rights ?? I'm quite simply highlighting the sinister reasons that social workers deemed this couple as unnacceptable as foster parents, perhaps you should followthe advice you offered buzzer and "read more carefully" ?

 

[The Spanish]

most people have absolutely no idea about the scale of the abuse of asylum in the last decade or so. because they have read stuff in the f***ing guardian about people getting their hands cut off they think there are millions of traumatised african war victims being held in jails by a heartless system.

 

[Nibble]

Where and when have either I or das reich mentioned human rights ?? I'm quite simply highlighting the sinister reasons that social workers deemed this couple as unnacceptable as foster parents, perhaps you should followthe advice you offered buzzer and "read more carefully" ?

It is one of your default arguments Bushy. Bit late in the day to start back peddling.

 

[User removed 4]

It is one of your default arguments Bushy. Bit late in the day to start back peddling.

Which roughly translates as " you havent , I've just spouted some thoughtless bollocks as per usual and i'll attempt to manoeuvre my way out of it with some more bollocks and obfuscation".

 

[Buzzer]

You need to read more carefuly Buzzer. I think it's fair to say that the vast majority of people contributing to this thread are against the children being removed from the foster parents.

I didn't misread anything. I was talking generally, not referring to any specific person. I'm surprised someone as clever as you didn't understand that whereas others clearly did.

 

[Questions]

I don't know the full details of this so have not much to add.

Except 15 posts.

 

[Nibble]

Which roughly translates as " you havent , I've just spouted some thoughtless bollocks as per usual and i'll attempt to manoeuvre my way out of it with some more bollocks and obfuscation".

If you are going to deny the last 5 years' posting then we are on a hiding to nowhere really aren't we. I doubt it would take too much to obfuscate you really with some of the. As for you Questions, I am outraged, outraged.

 

[User removed 4]

If you are going to deny the last 5 years' posting then we are on a hiding to nowhere really aren't we. I doubt it would take too much to obfuscate you really with some of the. As for you Questions, I am outraged, outraged.

Please, I really mean it , in fact I'll say please again to prove it, show me ANYWHERE on this thread where I have mentioned the foster parents human rights , in fact show me where i have mentioned human rights AT ALL ?Oh dear , I havent have I ? So perhaps it's you who has a default position of whining about being portrayed as a " lefty Guardianista's who want to see the U.K under Sharia Law and run by fundamentalists with hooks for hands and a tendancy to pour acid on their womenfolk." whenever someone questions your quite frankly, ridiculous stances.

 

[Nibble]

Please, I really mean it , in fact I'll say please again to prove it, show me ANYWHERE on this thread where I have mentioned the foster parents human rights , in fact show me where i have mentioned human rights AT ALL ?Oh dear , I havent have I ? So perhaps it's you who has a default position of whining about being portrayed as a " lefty Guardianista's who want to see the U.K under Sharia Law and run by fundamentalists with hooks for hands and a tendancy to pour acid on their womenfolk." whenever someone questions your quite frankly, ridiculous stances.

I'm sorry bushy there isn't enough time in the world to trawl through your history of ill informed bigotry. I'm afraid you'll have to take my word that you have indeed on many threads over many years accused us Lefty's of caring more about human rights than the English working man, or variations on that theme. I can't of course quote you every time you have posted this stuff as it would take all week. However, if you really are going to deny that you have not thrown that old chestnut into the mix on more than a few ocassions you and I really have nothing to debate.

 

[Questions]

I'm seeing a reality TV show emerging from this argument.

 

[User removed 4]

I'm sorry bushy there isn't enough time in the world to trawl through your history of ill informed bigotry. I'm afraid you'll have to take my word that you have indeed on many threads over many years accused us Lefty's of caring more about human rights than the English working man, or variations on that theme. I can't of course quote you every time you have posted this stuff as it would take all week. However, if you really are going to deny that you have not thrown that old chestnut into the mix on more than a few ocassions you and I really have nothing to debate.

I'm not denying it at all, without doubt I've said it many, many times , what I'm asking you to do , is show me where I have mentioned it on this thread, or indeed quite how "human rights" are pertinent to this case at all ? I await your answer with great interest.

 

[daveinprague]

Ive not been following this due to moving apartments, but on the face of it, removing non white/non English children? from a couple who are members of a party that is vehemenantly against multiculturism, and immigration doesnt seem that horrendous to me...disturbs me more that they got the children in the first place, bringing this removal and disruption to the foster parents, and the childrens lives
Ive not read the full thread, but I can guess most of it......would people be against BNP members fostering black/asian children, or would that go against the BNP foster parents 'rights'? I can imagine the labour party is against their local council causing a fuss before elections etc. I can imagine the right wingers whinging about 'rights' etc..... at the end of the day, whats best for the children is paramount., and whilst they may be incredible foster parents, I would still be a bit concerned about what sort of education they would recieve from foster parents with, what I consider extreme views.

 

[Milton Keynes Seagull]

I don't like UKIP but I dislike the idea of government interfering in your right to foster children and support UKIP even more.

I don't like the Labour party, but that doesn't mean I would stop Guardian reading, middle class lefty know alls who think embracing socialism, is visiting the National Theatre to see a Harold Pinter play, from fostering children.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

So what ?? If you were an asylum seeker genuinely in fear of your life , i'm quite sure a place where you are fed, clothed, kept warm and dry and given entertainment such as access to a gym, library and tv and videos would seem like paradise compared to wherever you are fleeing from , dont try to portray these places as some sort of guantanamo bay because thats total and utter rubbish, there certainly needs to be something done , perhaps you can comment on the amount of asylum seekers who have quite simply disappeared , or the "asylum seekers" that i know , who go back to congo for a holiday several times a year , so terrified of the persecution and violence they face there.

These Asylum Seekers probably pass through 3 or 4 countries on the way to the UK. If things are really that bad, then anything is paradise to what they have just come from. As much as I feel sorry for some of them, and some are really genuine cases, why is it destination UK all the time. Why do people want the UK. What does the UK have the other countries in Europe don't. These Asylum Seekers waiting in Calais could start a new life in France but they don't want it.

 

[User removed 4]

These Asylum Seekers probably pass through 3 or 4 countries on the way to the UK. If things are really that bad, then anything is paradise to what they have just come from. As much as I feel sorry for some of them, and some of are really genuine, why is it destination UK all the time. Why do people want the UK. What does the UK have the other countries in Europe don't. These Asylum Seekers waiting in Calais could start a new life in France but they don't want it.

I think we know the answer to that dont we ?