UKIP are now a parliamentary party

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

I listened to a 40 minute speech by Mary Berry at my daughters graduation at Bath university when she was given an honorary degree. I'd fight with all my worth to keep any bakers out of government after that Tom I can assure you.

Baker OUT!

 

[RexCathedra]

Baker OUT!

But he's my favorite Doctor!

 

[pastafarian]

Might be less tax on the beers, but the price will go UP to cover the loss of the cheap foreign labour serving them...

this cant be right.
The Green Party assures me that raising the minimum wage to £10 an hour will not result is price rises.

 

[Questions]

But he's my favorite Doctor!

I do seriously hope you mean Tom and not Colin. Colin was 2nd worse there was.

 

[dingodan]

17 pages, can someone sum up what they say for me?

 

[A mex eyecan]

I don't remember this level of hype when the Greens got their first MP. That just sums up the British media -- it's in their corporate interests to talk up the right and talk down the left.

are you sure ?
the majority of the media, and so called social speakers always come across as left wing who then deride anyone with a different view point as them as being a bigot

 

[pastafarian]

the most shocking thing about the Clacton Vote was that Charlotte Rose only got 56 votes.

i have no idea what her policies were but being Sex Worker Of The Year 2013,a high class escort and a bit of a hottie should have at least got her a few hundred more votes

 

[aolstudios]

http://newstoad.net/2014/10/10/clacton-rock-system-to-core-by-electing-same-bloke/

 

[JCL666]

And welcome to the quality of political debate in Britain, a load of sound and fury arguing over whether foreigners or the poor are ruining our lives. Scapegoats getting the blame for all our ills whilst the sharp suited sharks with all the power and all the money continue to get everyone to do their bidding because people are too afraid to lose what little they actually have at the moment.

UKIP are a joke party, it's blindingly obvious to anyone that do not have any solution to the problems faced by our, or indeed any other country. I agree that they connect with the concerns with elements of the electorate, but that is only because those people are not pointing the finger at those really responsible of their plight. The tories don't give a shit either way and the labour party sold it's soul long ago they haven idea what they stand for anymore.

British politics is shit at the moment as it is full of morons or spineless belief-free goons. This just what the corporations and the money want. The plebs fighting amongst themselves whilst they enrich themselves at our expense.

Yep.

 

[Buzzer]

17 pages, can someone sum up what they say for me?

Some stuff about politics and then there was this sarcy, superior type who deigned the thread with his presence just to let us know he's above such petty squabbles. Hope that helps.

 

[Murray 17]

Brighton and Hove's main population pressure is migration from other parts of the UK.

Didn't realise Poland was part of the UK.

 

[Murray 17]

….most of the population increase in Brighton and Hove since the census in 2001 is actually from within the South East region itself[/URL]

Of course it is. I must be imagining all the different accents and languages I hear outside school, at the doctor's, in the shop...

And anyway, 5.7% of the local population must be about 13000, yes 13000 extra people in an area as small as Brighton and Hove.

 

[crookie]

As the great British public swill down their Starbucks whilst shopping on Amazon from their Iphones and Ipads and wonder how it is in a growing economy that the tax base seems to have permanently shrunk, and we'll all be paying more taxes for shrinking public services

 

[daveinprague]

http://www.lbc.co.uk/this-ukip-voter-is-skillfully-dispatched-by-james-obrien-98492

 

[cunning fergus]

I was thinking about this t'other day, this argument is pretty much redundant now isn't it?

If you saw action in WW2 you would have to have been 16 or 18 in 1945, born in 1927 or 1929 if conscription was 16. You'd have to be at least 85. What proportion of our population is 85+?

The people voting for UKIP are the baby boomers. The generation that had it all and f***ed it up. No wonder they're so bitter.

And comparing the EU to the Nazis is pretty disrespectful to the reasons that people did bravely lose their lives for us IMHO. It's a Britain First tactic.

It's not an argument I am making, it's a riposte to a poster who is denigrating the thick, elderly, white working class voters who have chosen to exercise their democratic right by voting for UKIP.

The anger expressed by some on here towards UKIP voters is astounding, not least when it's clear from the Middleton and Heywood result that it includes significant numbers of ex Labour voters choosing to vote for UKIP. A classic case of playing the man and not the ball, if ever there was one.

Quite why you feel so much bitterness at the baby boomer generation is also mind boggling; I suspect at heart you consider yourself to be a progressive liberal type and yet evidently you are prepared to stereotype and generalise across a generation of your fellow countrymen and women. I can only presume you must hate that generation of your family...........strange.

As for any comparison between the EU and the nazis, to be honest as evil as the ideology of the Nazis at least they did enter power through the German democratic system. I don't know if you know but recently the EU appointed some bloke to oversee their law making executive, essentially the most powerful man in the whole setup.

I didn't vote for him..........did you?

 

[cunning fergus]

This is great proof of the halfwits that gravitate around UKIP. Not the brave folks over 85 who were actually there, no, the idiots using it as political collateral 70 years later.

This is great proof of someone missing the point, I am not denigrating the brave folks over 85 for voting for UKIP............far from it, I am all for freedom and letting them and others exercise their democratic right without prejudice. Not to much to ask for in a democracy is it?

 

[Bold Seagull]

Of course it is. I must be imagining all the different accents and languages I hear outside school, at the doctor's, in the shop...

And anyway, 5.7% of the local population must be about 13000, yes 13000 extra people in an area as small as Brighton and Hove.

Extra on what? Are you trying to suggest there's never been any immigrants in Brighton and now it's suddenly grown to 5.7%!

 

[Bold Seagull]

This is great proof of someone missing the point, I am not denigrating the brave folks over 85 for voting for UKIP............far from it, I am all for freedom and letting them and others exercise their democratic right without prejudice. Not to much to ask for in a democracy is it?

I have absolutely no idea why you felt the need to bring WWII into it then to make that point. Great proof of someone unable to make a point without muddying it completely and I wasnt the only one to read that way either.

 

[GT49er]

I am all for freedom and letting them and others exercise their democratic right without prejudice. Not to much to ask for in a democracy is it?

It is too much to ask for from people who are so alarmed that people who disagree with them may in fact be winning the argument (or the elections) that they resort to prejudicial stereo-typing and demeaning name-calling. 'Kippers' is the latest such word to be used for name-calling.

As in: "You won't agree with me so I'll call you a Kipper, assuming without any evidence at all that you are a rabid right-wing racist homophobic Daily Mail reader". Pathetic............

 

[RexCathedra]

'Kippers' is the latest such word to be used for name-calling.

It's harmless enough compared with the origin of "Tory"....