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[Albion] Uğurcan Çakır



SULLY COULDNT SHOOT

Loyal2Family+Albion!
Sep 28, 2004
11,344
Izmir, Southern Turkey
Who can definitely touch the underside of the crossbar whilst standing on the goal-line? Maty Ryan or this new guy?

tchaker, tchaker, tchaker can!
tcha tcha tchaker can!

If he comes this is going on all my messages!!!
 




brighton_tom

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Jul 23, 2008
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Goalkeeper is way down the list of priorities, but if we do end up getting the priority players (striker & left back) but also manage to improve areas of the team less needed (like a goalkeeper) then we really will have done well this transfer window.
 










SULLY COULDNT SHOOT

Loyal2Family+Albion!
Sep 28, 2004
11,344
Izmir, Southern Turkey


How's your Turkish? 6:41


Thanks for making me designated translator guys!

Overall the two speakers think it's a great fit. The guy on the right says Brighton is his third (?!?!) favorite team and they spend about four minutes talking about how wonderful Brighton the place is.... which of course we already know! They think Ugurcan will like Brighton because like his hometown, Trabzon, there are a lot of seagulls!!!!

The guy on the right also thinks Ryan is a really good goalkeeper. He says this would be a good move for Ugurcan because he would have to challenge for a place and that's how they see it. They think Ugurcan has great potential but Brighton he will have a to fight a really good keeper and he can do that and if he does then Brighton will be a good place to show off his skills to better teams (f**** off! ) like Spurs, Liverpool, Aletico Madrid....

The guy on the left thinks it's a win-win for Brighton and Ugurcan but the real kicker for him is our man Potter. Lauds him to the hilt and seems to think Ugurcan will really benefit from Potter's management

They say that there hasn't been a bid yet but they think a bid is being prepared.

And that's enough fro you lot..... if you want more find a better translator ;)
 


SULLY COULDNT SHOOT

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Sep 28, 2004
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Izmir, Southern Turkey
As the board's resident Turkish expert(or Turxpert for short...) what are your thoughts? Is he any good? Better than Ryan? Is there any buzz in the media in Turkey over it or is it just random gossip?

Think he will challenge Ryan and I totally agree about his ability in the air and one on ones... so will fit Potter's style. But he's young and has a ricket or five in him. Under Potter, a year or so ahead he could be really really good and is an improvement on all our other numbers twos. Definitely best turkish keeper right now and possibly the best since Rustu.

I think he won't be too expensive either... do we know what the bid will be? Turkish teams are desperate for money.
 


Garry Nelson's Left Foot

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Jul 7, 2003
13,527
tokyo
Think he will challenge Ryan and I totally agree about his ability in the air and one on ones... so will fit Potter's style. But he's young and has a ricket or five in him. Under Potter, a year or so ahead he could be really really good and is an improvement on all our other numbers twos. Definitely best turkish keeper right now and possibly the best since Rustu.

I think he won't be too expensive either... do we know what the bid will be? Turkish teams are desperate for money.

That sounds really positive. A proper challenger to Ryan.

I have no idea what the bid will be, presumably not too big. A few million?
 




highflyer

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Jan 21, 2016
2,553
If there is truth in this rumour i'd suggest you're absolutely right. Seems Potter wants ball playing defenders. Fine. But ball playing defenders don't tend to be no-nonsense, ball heading defenders. Maty is fantastic at what he does but his big weakness is his aerial presence. Knowing Potter, it wouldn't surprise me if we see rotation at GK depending on who is playing at the back.

And also, presumably, who we are playing against as well? Eg when we play a team with big strong aggressive lumps up front.
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Tactical use of two goalkeepers seems extremely radical though.

Surely the established wisdom is to stick with one goalkeeper, so as to develop a good relationship with the defence and only change if forced by injury, suspension or dramatic and sustained loss of form?

Does anyone on here with greater football knowledge than me* know if any successful team has (or had) two goalkeepers that they use(d) tactically?


*meaning 'anyone on here' pretty much
 
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macbeth

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Jan 3, 2018
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six feet beneath the moon
Thanks for making me designated translator guys!

Overall the two speakers think it's a great fit. The guy on the right says Brighton is his third (?!?!) favorite team and they spend about four minutes talking about how wonderful Brighton the place is.... which of course we already know! They think Ugurcan will like Brighton because like his hometown, Trabzon, there are a lot of seagulls!!!!

The guy on the right also thinks Ryan is a really good goalkeeper. He says this would be a good move for Ugurcan because he would have to challenge for a place and that's how they see it. They think Ugurcan has great potential but Brighton he will have a to fight a really good keeper and he can do that and if he does then Brighton will be a good place to show off his skills to better teams (f**** off! ) like Spurs, Liverpool, Aletico Madrid....

The guy on the left thinks it's a win-win for Brighton and Ugurcan but the real kicker for him is our man Potter. Lauds him to the hilt and seems to think Ugurcan will really benefit from Potter's management

They say that there hasn't been a bid yet but they think a bid is being prepared.

And that's enough fro you lot..... if you want more find a better translator ;)

Thanks for this! I must admit, after weeks and weeks of sneering ignorance and disrespectful drivel about our city, our club and our manager being spouted by Leeds fans and journalists alike, it is nice to see someone (from a foreign media outlet, even!) have a very good level of knowledge about the club and the squad. Really is a class apart from the arrogance we've seen over the last month or so.
 


Badger Boy

Mr Badger
Jan 28, 2016
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And also, presumably, who we are playing against as well? Eg when we play a team with big strong aggressive lumps up front.
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Tactical use of two goalkeepers seems extremely radical though.

Surely the established wisdom is to stick with one goalkeeper, so as to develop a good relationship with the defence and only change if forced by injury, suspension or dramatic and sustained loss of form?

Does anyone on here with greater football knowledge than me* know if any successful team has (or had) two goalkeepers that they use(d) tactically?


*meaning 'anyone on here' pretty much

Potterball will have totally disappeared up its own ******** if we start playing a goalkeeper depending on the opposition.

When will we learn that it's best to play to our own strengths as opposed to trying to mitigate the threat of those of the opposition? Gus didn't build a team in League 1 to combat the other teams, he built one to be better than the rest. We should be aiming to build a team of our own which causes other teams to change to play us.

Look at Pep Guardiola's decision to change his team for the Lyon match. It did not work, admittedly largely because of a Fernando Torres-style miss from the world's most overrated footballer - but they ultimately lost the game.
 


Swansman

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May 13, 2019
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When will we learn that it's best to play to our own strengths as opposed to trying to mitigate the threat of those of the opposition? Gus didn't build a team in League 1 to combat the other teams, he built one to be better than the rest. We should be aiming to build a team of our own which causes other teams to change to play us.

When back in League One maybe... PL requires you to both have your own style of playing as well as adapting to the opponent.
 






Badger Boy

Mr Badger
Jan 28, 2016
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When back in League One maybe... PL requires you to both have your own style of playing as well as adapting to the opponent.

Tell Sheffield United that. Or Burnley. More successful than us last season, having spent less and tinkered far, far less.
 


Finchley Seagull

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Feb 25, 2004
6,916
North London
Potterball will have totally disappeared up its own ******** if we start playing a goalkeeper depending on the opposition.

When will we learn that it's best to play to our own strengths as opposed to trying to mitigate the threat of those of the opposition? Gus didn't build a team in League 1 to combat the other teams, he built one to be better than the rest. We should be aiming to build a team of our own which causes other teams to change to play us.

Look at Pep Guardiola's decision to change his team for the Lyon match. It did not work, admittedly largely because of a Fernando Torres-style miss from the world's most overrated footballer - but they ultimately lost the game.

I wouldn't change goalkeeper due to the opposition, but I don't see changing teams based on the opposition as a negative. I think it's not so much to combat other teams a lot of the time, it's more to take advantage of their weakness. Surely it is logical to play quicker players when a team plays a high line. But these quicker players may be less use against an opponent who sits deep. Maybe you want more skilful players and a taller striker.
 


Badger Boy

Mr Badger
Jan 28, 2016
3,658
I wouldn't change goalkeeper due to the opposition, but I don't see changing teams based on the opposition as a negative. I think it's not so much to combat other teams a lot of the time, it's more to take advantage of their weakness. Surely it is logical to play quicker players when a team plays a high line. But these quicker players may be less use against an opponent who sits deep. Maybe you want more skilful players and a taller striker.

I think there's a middle ground between having a settled team, like Sheffield United, or having a bingo draw to decide who plays game by game, Potterball. By all means, push up against a high line and drop off against a team with pace. Obviously there's a need for tactical flexibility but trying to combat every team we play against, every game? It results in the type of disjointed performances we saw last season and I believe we're capable of doing much better.
 




Finchley Seagull

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Feb 25, 2004
6,916
North London
I think there's a middle ground between having a settled team, like Sheffield United, or having a bingo draw to decide who plays game by game, Potterball. By all means, push up against a high line and drop off against a team with pace. Obviously there's a need for tactical flexibility but trying to combat every team we play against, every game? It results in the type of disjointed performances we saw last season and I believe we're capable of doing much better.

I agree there is a middle ground. I think Sheffield United won't do as well this season, as they stick to one set of tactics and teams will work them out. I think they will still be okay but maybe not top half again (although I could be wrong). We are more adaptable in that sense but I think you don't want to change tactics too much and maybe Potter went slightly too far at times. Will be interesting to see how he approaches his second season
 




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