[Politics] Trump's new gender executive order...

[Curious Orange]

I do think that if you are incapable of answering a simple question, an obscure youtube link is always as good

He has form for linking/quoting nonsense.

I can't be bothered responding to the blatant trolling any further as this particular subject is off topic in any case.

 

[Hugo Rune]

It’s because of recorded conviction rates for sexual offences including rape.

https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/18973/pdf/

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According to the most recent published statistics, which you can see above, trans women are more likely to be in prison for sexual offending than not, and only 3.3% of women are in prison for sex offences compared to 16.8% of men.

The numbers don’t lie. Transwomen and men pose a far higher risk of serious sexual offending than women, making biological women in men’s spaces much, much lower risk.

With the greatest respect, quoting these highly selective, statistically questionable findings from three lesbian feminists (from a number of different academic fields) who have made it their life ambitions to attack trans women and to halt what they consider pure lesbians transitioning into trans men is not a great look.

Let’s be clear. These three academics are at least sympathetic to the LGB Alliance theory that thousands of lesbian girls across the country are being influenced to transition into trans men because their parents are homophobic and hate women, at worst, they are fully paid up members. They hate Stonewall with a passion, almost as much as they hate men.

These three woman are just as bad as the lunatic trans lobby. The ones who think you can be whatever you want, whenever you like. These women are the sorts that are regularly kicked out of Pride parades etc. These people (on both sides) are tiny in number yet are being used to gaslight idiot right wing gammon and far left activists by the media and politicians. They are all full of shit.

There are so many more important things to worry about and discuss but for the likes of Johnson and Trump, they know a culture war will mobilise the white, uneducated, male heterosexual vote so they want it front page news. It’s pathetic.

 

[Littlemo]

This isn’t transphobia, it’s a documented fact. Most of the women I know feel safer in biological women only toilets.

Honestly? As a woman I don’t know anyone who actually cares. Women’s toilets are always cubicles, I don’t have a clue who is in the one next to me at any given moment and they don’t have a clue I’m in there either.

The whole toilet debate has always been idiotic, I’ve seen more pissed up men in the women’s toilets at football grounds than I have anywhere else. A sign on a door is hardly going to stop someone who was ever really intent on committing any kind of sexual assault in a bathroom, if you are happy to commit one serious crime, you are hardly likely to care about adhering to door signage.

Clearly gender neutral toilet cubicles (found in most decent cafes, coffee shops and often restaurants etc these days) is a pretty easy way forward and the whole f***ing debate goes away. See also changing facilities.

 

[clapham_gull]

It's one of those debates that has given far too many people something to think about, beyond the disgrace of the Red Arrows not making an appearance at the Olympic Opening Ceremony.

True story. I watched the London Opening is Greece and after an hour a couple in the hotel walked out in disgust.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Honestly? As a woman I don’t know anyone who actually cares. Women’s toilets are always cubicles,

Whilst I agree with you, it’s f***ing odd that it’s mainly blokes who get into a total frenzy about this.

 

[Mustafa II]

Whilst I agree with you, it’s f***ing odd that it’s mainly blokes who get into a total frenzy about this.

Is it?

Mumsnet would like a word.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Is it?

Mumsnet would like a word.

Fair enough. I’ve never been on Mumsnet. I’m just going by the media I see.

 

[Mustafa II]

Fair enough. I’ve never been on Mumsnet. I’m just going by the media I see.

What media do you see?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

What media do you see?

The three main ones are Reuters, BBC and The Guardian.