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Tubby Mondays

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I still find it difficult to get my head round how a major UK political party could come up with the idea of sending asylum seekers to Rwanda, claiming it is a safe country. And then trying to bulldoze their way through any court decision that gets in their way.

The stultifying arrogance of it. It's the kind of thing that happens in other countries. Not Britain.
Yeah and you just know that even if planes do ever take off and the boats keep coming, which they will, and people keep dying, which they will, that no one would ever admit that this policy is wrong and hateful.
 




Scappa

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Jul 5, 2017
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I still find it difficult to get my head round how a major UK political party could come up with the idea of sending asylum seekers to Rwanda, claiming it is a safe country. And then trying to bulldoze their way through any court decision that gets in their way.

The stultifying arrogance of it. It's the kind of thing that happens in other countries. Not Britain.
While granting four Rwandans "refugee status in the UK over “well-founded” fears of persecution at the same time as the government was arguing in court and parliament that the east African country was a safe place to send asylum seekers."

 




TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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The magic money tree has been found

"We will increase defence spending to a new baseline of 2.5% of GDP by 2030. That starts today, and rises steadily in each and every year.


Over the next six years we’ll invest an additional £75bn pounds in our defence and it will be fully funded, with no increase in borrowing or debt."
 


Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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The magic money tree has been found

"We will increase defence spending to a new baseline of 2.5% of GDP by 2030. That starts today, and rises steadily in each and every year.


Over the next six years we’ll invest an additional £75bn pounds in our defence and it will be fully funded, with no increase in borrowing or debt."
See all those MP directorships weren't a waste of money.
 




Bob!

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Jul 5, 2003
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The magic money tree has been found

"We will increase defence spending to a new baseline of 2.5% of GDP by 2030. That starts today, and rises steadily in each and every year.


Over the next six years we’ll invest an additional £75bn pounds in our defence and it will be fully funded, with no increase in borrowing or debt."

Another trap for when Labour win the GE?
 


Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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The magic money tree has been found

"We will increase defence spending to a new baseline of 2.5% of GDP by 2030. That starts today, and rises steadily in each and every year.


Over the next six years we’ll invest an additional £75bn pounds in our defence and it will be fully funded, with no increase in borrowing or debt."
I bet the doyen of disaster capitalism Jacob Rees-Mogg's offshore investment trusts have snaffled a load of defence industry stocks in anticipation of lovely government contracts coming their way.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
The magic money tree has been found

"We will increase defence spending to a new baseline of 2.5% of GDP by 2030. That starts today, and rises steadily in each and every year.


Over the next six years we’ll invest an additional £75bn pounds in our defence and it will be fully funded, with no increase in borrowing or debt."
I'll believe it when I see it. What we have now is shoddy, and breaks down easily.
 




Audax

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Nobby Cybergoat

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I wouldn't bet too much money that Rwanda won't just pull out of the whole scheme.

Which will teach us a valuable and incredibly expensive lesson, that Africa isn't our dustbin
 






WATFORD zero

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Very sad every time this happens. Nothing else to be said really. Not sure what it has to do with the Tories though? These tragedies would happen under any government.

It would indeed happen under any Government that during their time in office increased the numbers crossing the channel and backlog of cases as follows :

Boat Crossings
(Numbers weren't recorded prior to 2018 as the government thought them inconsequential).
2018 - 299
2019 - 1,890
2020 - 8,466
2021 - 28,526
2022 - 45,755

Asylum Backlog
2012 - 9,800
2018 - 27,000
2022 - 161,000

by undertaking the following four steps

1. Remove the ability to claim Asylum from abroad.
2. Close legal Asylum routes to claimants.
3. Stop working with Interpol again to target people traffickers
4. Cut the numbers of caseworkers processing applications increasing the backlog.

And then round it off by spending as much money (to date) on a completely farcical, unimplementable plan as it would have taken to employ extra staff and clear the backlog three times over with money to spare.

These tragedies would indeed happen under any Government that did all that, not just the Tories :facepalm:
 
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nicko31

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It would indeed happen under any Government that during their time in office increased the numbers crossing the channel and increased the backlog of cases as follows

Boat Crossings
(Numbers weren't recorded prior to 2018 as the government thought them inconsequential).
2018 - 299
2019 - 1,890
2020 - 8,466
2021 - 28,526
2022 - 45,755

Asylum Backlog
2012 - 9,800
2018 - 27,000
2022 - 161,000

by undertaking the following four steps

1. Remove the ability to claim Asylum from abroad.
2. Close legal Asylum routes to claimants.
3. Stop working with Interpol again to target people traffickers
4. Cut the numbers of caseworkers processing applications increasing the backlog.

And then round it off by spending as much money (so far) on a completely farcical, unimplementable plan than it would have taken to employ extra staff and clear the backlog three times over with money to spare.

These tragedies would indeed happen under any Government that did all that, not just the Tories :facepalm:
Worth adding not only did have the Tories slashed the overseas aid budget to 0.5%, but what remains is increasingly being used to clear up the mess they 've created (see above)
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

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Oct 8, 2003
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Please don't let them be Floaters...we need to flush them away once and for all !
Well, you understood perfectly well the problem here, it seems :wink:
 




Tubby Mondays

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Dec 8, 2005
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A Crack House
The magic money tree has been found

"We will increase defence spending to a new baseline of 2.5% of GDP by 2030. That starts today, and rises steadily in each and every year.


Over the next six years we’ll invest an additional £75bn pounds in our defence and it will be fully funded, with no increase in borrowing or debt."
'Because we are funding it by stripping the disabled of their benefits'.
 


A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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Toasting the demonisation of the most vulnerable with champagne, f***ing animals
 


A1X

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“Tweet something like…”

 






TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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The process of reverting some roads from Wales' 20mph default speed limit to 30 will begin in September, the new transport secretary has said.

Ken Skates urged people to contact local councils and tell them "where they think 20mph should be targeted".
 


Audax

Boing boing boing...
Aug 3, 2015
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Uckfield
The process of reverting some roads from Wales' 20mph default speed limit to 30 will begin in September, the new transport secretary has said.

Ken Skates urged people to contact local councils and tell them "where they think 20mph should be targeted".
To be fair to the Tories, as much as they opposed the original 20mph default for all the wrong reasons, I believe the current plans to revert (not everywhere, is my understanding) is because they've (not the Tories) realised they went too far with the across-the-board 20mph imposition and that it needs to be targeted.
 


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