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Oct 8, 2003
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It is always wise to review one's defense capacity.

Suddenly announcing a world record increase in defense spending with no strategic narrative is a gimmick.

However if you have the temerity to question this latest wheeze, you are a tofu-eating surrender-monkey.

Add to the mix the Rwanda wheeze. If you oppose that you must be a left-wing supporter of unlimited immigration.

And if you oppose the assessment of fitness to work by untrained bureaucrats instead of trained medics, you are a supporter of benefit cheats.

I can't remember the electorate ever being played like we are being played right now.
 




Thunder Bolt

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Not to mention binning the Dublin agreement, ie there's no longer a returns arrangement with France. Boom time for criminal gangs, esp with Europol binned and data sharing scrapped.

Soaring immigration legal and illegal is the work of the Tories and their botched Brexit. What's more Farage aided their large majority in 2019 so he's an accessory too.
David Cameron admitting that Brexit has caused this, because he had the Dublin Agreement when he was PM.

 


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To be fair to the Tories, as much as they opposed the original 20mph default for all the wrong reasons, I believe the current plans to revert (not everywhere, is my understanding) is because they've (not the Tories) realised they went too far with the across-the-board 20mph imposition and that it needs to be targeted.
All a bit silly in Faversham. The whole town is 20 MPH, but there are no cameras, no police, and people still whizz about at 40 MPH with impunity.

I'd like to see a few cameras put up.
 


nicko31

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All a bit silly in Faversham. The whole town is 20 MPH, but there are no cameras, no police, and people still whizz about at 40 MPH with impunity.

I'd like to see a few cameras put up.
The word in traffic enforcement is spot speed is on the way out. Instead its mobile vans and portable speed detection (home office have approved several new devices), expect to see a lot more in the years ahead.
 


WATFORD zero

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All a bit silly in Faversham. The whole town is 20 MPH, but there are no cameras, no police, and people still whizz about at 40 MPH with impunity.

I'd like to see a few cameras put up.

IIRC this came up when they introduced the limits in Brighton, and the standard cameras that are used can't be calibrated down below 30 :shrug:
 




nicko31

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IIRC this came up when they introduced the limits in Brighton, and the standard cameras that are used can't be calibrated down below 30 :shrug:
Not the old fixed Gatso's and like but not the next mobile stuff. Popping up all over the Thames Valley
 


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The word in traffic enforcement is spot speed is on the way out. Instead its mobile vans and portable speed detection (home office have approved several new devices), expect to see a lot more in the years ahead.
I got two speeding tickets 8 years ago. Both in Northampton. Bot from sneaky side street van cameras.

As long as you know they are likely to be there then the deterrent will work.
 






Audax

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Aug 3, 2015
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IIRC this came up when they introduced the limits in Brighton, and the standard cameras that are used can't be calibrated down below 30 :shrug:
I saw an article a while back re: Brighton's 20mph zones and enforcement. From memory there was a quote from the local police to the effect that enforcing it wasn't cost effective. Partly because their view was that in an awful lot of the 20mph zones it simply wasn't possible for anyone to speed by enough to justify a ticket anyway.
 


Nobby Cybergoat

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Jul 19, 2021
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I saw an article a while back re: Brighton's 20mph zones and enforcement. From memory there was a quote from the local police to the effect that enforcing it wasn't cost effective. Partly because their view was that in an awful lot of the 20mph zones it simply wasn't possible for anyone to speed by enough to justify a ticket anyway.
My experience is that the 20 mph limits in Brighton, has forced average speeds down on these roads from about 33mph to about 26mph.

This makes it worth doing in my eyes
 


Bodian

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May 3, 2012
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The word in traffic enforcement is spot speed is on the way out. Instead its mobile vans and portable speed detection (home office have approved several new devices), expect to see a lot more in the years ahead.
We've just had a whole load of 'average-speed' cameras installed o the A590 up our way.
 




A1X

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It is always wise to review one's defense capacity.

Suddenly announcing a world record increase in defense spending with no strategic narrative is a gimmick.

However if you have the temerity to question this latest wheeze, you are a tofu-eating surrender-monkey.

Add to the mix the Rwanda wheeze. If you oppose that you must be a left-wing supporter of unlimited immigration.

And if you oppose the assessment of fitness to work by untrained bureaucrats instead of trained medics, you are a supporter of benefit cheats.

I can't remember the electorate ever being played like we are being played right now.
Also proves the point I’ve made repeatedly on here that being Tory leader is “politics in Easy mode”.

Look at Labour’s £28bn green plan and the furore about cost and how it would be funded. Since then we’ve seen a world record hike in defence spending which costs more than the entire civil service budget, a plan to abolish National Insurance entirely and countless heaps of money being thrown at Rwanda for performative cruelty. At the same time the Government has cut taxes twice and promises to do so again. But barely a squeak from our fearless press in their desire to “speak truth to power”.
 


nicko31

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We've just had a whole load of 'average-speed' cameras installed o the A590 up our way.
When I say spot I mean "spot", ie one fixed spot. Average speed stuff I think will continue to be rolled out. Some of the new cameras don't even need a van, just a panda car and put up a mobile tripod
 






Bob!

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Just thought I'd look up Angie's diabolical tax fraud debacle....

f*** me. The most she owes is £3,500, but the most likely amount she owes is faaaaark all. Nothing.

And does this mean that Labour are hypocrites, unfit to govern, and that the conservatives should continue their rightful role of running the country and massively enriching themselves and their friends? Yes. Yes it does. Of course it does.


:facepalm: :shootself
 




Jul 20, 2003
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Just thought I'd look up Angie's diabolical tax fraud debacle....

f*** me. The most she owes is £3,500, but the most likely amount she owes is faaaaark all. Nothing.

And does this mean that Labour are hypocrites, unfit to govern, and that the conservatives should continue their rightful role of running the country and massively enriching themselves and their friends? Yes. Yes it does. Of course it does.


:facepalm: :shootself

It's like the curry story. That got 11 (eleven) consecutive front pages in The Mail on the lead up to local elections.
 


Bodian

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May 3, 2012
14,211
Cumbria
Just thought I'd look up Angie's diabolical tax fraud debacle....

f*** me. The most she owes is £3,500, but the most likely amount she owes is faaaaark all. Nothing.

And does this mean that Labour are hypocrites, unfit to govern, and that the conservatives should continue their rightful role of running the country and massively enriching themselves and their friends? Yes. Yes it does. Of course it does.


:facepalm: :shootself
The Police don't even seem to know what it is they are actually investigating. CGT avoidance is an HMRC issue - so it can only be electoral fraud or council-tax evasion.
 


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