[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[Herr Tubthumper]

It does seem strange that she has gone from being a Lib Dem (albeit quite a while ago) and a Remianer to standing to be Tory PM to implement Minford type economic policies; quite the transformation.

I presume it's a self-serving transformation i.e. one which she feels will appeal to the party members. Let's face it, those loonies and nutters voted in Boris as leader so it's a proven and successful tactic.

 

[Eeyore]

Liz Truss as PM then, backed by JRM and the ERG lot.



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She's a self declared Thatcherite. She said so today. I also saw an interview in which she successfully did the BOJO and failed to answer any direct question put to her, repeating the same mantra again and again. Made Michael Howard look like a straight talking bloke..

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Speaking of greatest hits...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srHNcNoEJ9g

Haha! We've just lived through our version of Trump, now we're going to get George Bush in a skirt.

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

Public school toffs always elect a woman that reminds them of their strict nannies - Thatcher, Theresa May. Liz Truss is a shoo in

 

[TomandJerry]

It's a completely sound line of logic. Which means it will be rejected out of hand by the tory membership

I would definitely prefer Rishi over Truss.

Which means Truss will be PM.

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[dolphins]

I would definitely prefer Rishi over Truss.

Which means Truss will be PM.

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Agree. I think Rishi would be better for the country out of the both of them, but Truss holds all the "comedy value" trump cards, which is. a. disgrace...

 

[pb21]

Changing views as your lived experiences change is to be admired. But I look at those Thatcher costume pictures and refuse to believe she did it for any reason other than opportunism

I don't disagree, but it's the speed with which she has changed and the conviction of the change, i.e. this is the correct economic school of thought to run a country on, whereas a couple of years ago it was fundamentally different.

My views have changed over the years, not quite as extreme, or to the same extent, maybe more refined/matured but I guess everyone's different and she will have sound reasons and wise voices around her.

 

[Simster]

Thick Lizzy is the gammon's choice: she's a cretin, she's white, she didn't have a part to play in sacking the fat slimy Etonian, and of course she hasn't achieved anything but she does love Brexit (which is why she backed remain). I don't like Sunak's politics either as he's an out of touch hypocrite, but I do believe he'd have been easier to paint as a steady hand on the tiller when 2024 comes around. That wouldn't be good with the country needing to get rid of this shower of shit, so a year or two of Truss embarrassing the nation is something I will happily stomach.

 

[Barnet Seagull]

With Liz, I guess the hope is that she might listen to some sense around her (perhaps even the civil service) but it's more likely she'll be a puppet. With Rishi, he's just massively out of touch and massively distanced from reality. I can't work out which is more concerning.

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

And we thought it was embarrassing when the Americans had a choice between Biden and Trump.......................

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Agree. I think Rishi would be better for the country out of the both of them, but Truss holds all the "comedy value" trump cards, which is. a. disgrace...

A Freudian slip perhaps!

 

[A1X]

Absolute nutter. Note who Steve Peers (Professor of EU law and trading law) and Pippa Musgrave (trading law consultant) were answering.

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Good lord, it's Owen Paterson. I struggle to believe he could be seen as somehow untrustworthy.

 

[nicko31]

Truss will win. The Tory membership, like an orphaned child being told to select its next parent, will go for the one that offers the most toys and likes their behaviour. They certainly won't choose the one that murdered their previous Dad.

She will win and colour will be a factor

Whilst a minority there are enough of the membership its still enough to swing it.

 

[rippleman]

And we thought it was embarrassing when the Americans had a choice between Biden and Trump.......................

True. But at least the American people had the choice between Biden and Trump.

We have to suffer whoever just 160K retired colonels and Hyacinth Buckets decide should lead our country. Some democracy eh?

 

[Is it PotG?]

We have to suffer whoever just 160K retired colonels and Hyacinth Buckets decide should lead our country. QUOTE]

According to the most recent research by Prof Bale's team, from January 2020:

63% of Conservative Party members are male, and 37% female

6% are under 24-years-old, 36% are aged 25 to 49-years-old, 19% are aged between 50 and 64-years-old, and 39% are over 65

24% backed Remain in the EU referendum, and 76% backed Leave

56% live in London and the south-east of England, 18% in the Midlands and Wales, 20% in the north of England and 6% in Scotland

80% belong to the highest social economic groups known as ABC1

 

[TomandJerry]

Agree. I think Rishi would be better for the country out of the both of them, but Truss holds all the "comedy value" trump cards, which is. a. disgrace...

BJ also held that card!

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[nicko31]

True. But at least the American people had the choice between Biden and Trump.

We have to suffer whoever just 160K retired colonels and Hyacinth Buckets decide should lead our country. Some democracy eh?

Yes its feels a bit undemocratic and annoys the public. I remember when Thatcher was ousted, there were a lot of unhappy folk

But that is our system whether its Labour or Tory at the helm, we vote for a party in the election not the leader. Its not a presidential system

 

[nicko31]

We have to suffer whoever just 160K retired colonels and Hyacinth Buckets decide should lead our country. QUOTE]

According to the most recent research by Prof Bale's team, from January 2020:

63% of Conservative Party members are male, and 37% female

6% are under 24-years-old, 36% are aged 25 to 49-years-old, 19% are aged between 50 and 64-years-old, and 39% are over 65

24% backed Remain in the EU referendum, and 76% backed Leave

56% live in London and the south-east of England, 18% in the Midlands and Wales, 20% in the north of England and 6% in Scotland

80% belong to the highest social economic groups known as ABC1

Love the ABC1 group, I'm so aggrieved, f**k it I'm voting leave.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Love the ABC1 group, I'm so aggrieved, f**k it I'm voting leave.

Shoot that Poison Arrow....

 

[Eeyore]

Shoot that Poison Arrow....

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