So much for the trickle-down of wealth that is supposed to accrue from granting huge pay rises and salaries to the rich!
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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...
- Thread starter TomandJerry
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Sunak talks about the dangers of public sector pay rises a lot more than private sector because:
a) the Government has direct involvement in setting public sector pay;
b) the Government has been repeatedly pushed in regards to public sector pay (strikes, opposition attacks, polling pressures etc);
c) the Government knows there's very little they can do about private sector pay increases because of the shortages in the labour market ... unless, of course, the government is willing to admit that both Brexit and their anti-immigration policy is a major driver of the labour shortages and thus the pay increases (which are contributing to supply side inflation).
you forgot
d) all Tory Governments instinctively dislike the public sector, and spend most of their time in power trying to run it down - so they are an easy target to use for scaremongering and scapegoating.
Well yes, that goes without saying
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Greg Bobkin
Silver Seagull
- May 22, 2012
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Tories/right-wingers: "Down with cancel culture. We DEMAND freedom of speech for all. You can't say anything anymore. Go woke, go broke."
Also, Tories/right-wingers: "No, not you. You can't say that."
It seems that most of the Johnson-ites and fellow right-wing Tories actively ENJOY being nasty. They appear to get a kick out of their hatred, misogyny, racism, etc, etc. I'm genuinely interested in WHY they are so obnoxious....is it their upbringing? Do they ever stop and think "actually, my life could be so much better if I was nice sometimes?"Tories/right-wingers: "Down with cancel culture. We DEMAND freedom of speech for all. You can't say anything anymore. Go woke, go broke."
Also, Tories/right-wingers: "No, not you. You can't say that."
Not sure that's what the problem is. Private sector wage rises are a cost to the employer and they generally recoup that by increasing the price of their product/service and therefore affecting inflation. Public sector payrises don't equate to an increase in the service price of their product/service.
It may be true for the inflation debate, but clearly isn't fair for a society. It just highlights exactly why lower income earners need a decent pay rise.
Best form of defence is attack, maybe
Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
Or in their case ‘best form of defence is being a ****’ and it really helps if you are a gutless coward as well.Best form of defence is attack, maybe
Randy McNob
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- Jun 13, 2020
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This government really are laying the grounds for mass civil action / unrest.
Whether that happens or not is doubtful but they have certainly made it almost impossible to trust politicians and politics in general.
Whether that happens or not is doubtful but they have certainly made it almost impossible to trust politicians and politics in general.
All the while erstwhile Labour supporters, or at least natural opponents of the tories like I assume you would be, are thinking it is impossible to trust politicians, the tories will win, because their supporters will continue to support them.
As for civil unrest, I doubt it. 'Just Stop Oil' and chums aside.
Consider, the nurses today voted to accept the government's pay offer! Well, actually a majority of those voting rejected the offer, but fewer than 50% of the union bothered to vote so the vote was not carried.
Unfortunately the more we get a barrage of shitehousery from the tories, the more their opponents will become cynical and apathetic, it seems.
The thing that worries me most is the emergence of new maverick political organizations, such as the one that has retuned loads of councilors in Sheppy. Populist, lacking in transparency, unknown quantities....or recycled SWP (or BNP) types. Blathering on about PR, weakening Labour's vote (in the main) and enabling the tories (in the main).
- Jul 10, 2003
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I believe your second line is completely incorrect. There are huge number of politicians that I would trust, some I would support, some I think have great ideas and some of whom I disagree with vehemently, but all of whom I would trust.
This current cabal, who I agree are the most dishonest, corrupt, self serving Government the UK has ever seen is in no way representative of politicians of any party. I personally would have preferred (just in my lifetime) the Governments of MacMillan, Douglas-Home, Heath, Wilson, Callaghan, Thatcher, Major, Blair, Brown, Cameron and May over this complete bunch of ****s which were always so blindingly obviously ****s long before 'the electorate' decide they should have a huge majority in 2019.
Toute nation a le gouvernement qu'elle mérite.. has never been more true, sadly
In case I haven't made myself clear, this whole cabinet and their backers are a bunch of self serving ****s. The majority of politicians aren't
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Genuinely heartening couple of posts. Maybe I’m just having a down day. They happen from time to time.
But we gally on! Viva La change!
But we gally on! Viva La change!
nicko31
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Just imagine the UK press if this had been Jeremy Corbyn.
I can think of some words that would be used in the headlines of the Sun, Mail and Express:
‘Traitor’
‘Tower of London’
‘Stocks’
‘Banishment’
‘Pillories’
‘Capital punishment’
nicko31
Well-known member
No mention of the story in the Sun, the Mail, the Express & the Telegraph. Its not their responsibility to highlight how a UK PM put our national security at risk
But have they mentioned it on the fair and balanced (according to the other thread) GB News?