I just happen to think that MPs, whatever colour rosette they wear, should be above hurling abuse on social media.
They're our elected representatives, would it be so much to expect vaguely decent behaviour?
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They're our elected representatives, would it be so much to expect vaguely decent behaviour?
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Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
She admits she is sweary, but I wouldn’t call her a troll. She criticises the government and with good reason.
Warning video contains swearing.
And that's before we even go into the fact that the drivers for our current inflation problems simply don't fit the traditional theories of inflation. A significant portion of the inflation we're seeing is caused (unusually) by persistent supply-side pressures. Supply-side inflation is normally short-lived, but IMO it's been sustained here in the UK due to multiple factors coming together: Brexit (and the impacts on free-flowing trade of both goods and labour); persistent shortages in the labour market (resulting in increased costs to businesses as they compete to attract staff); persistent shortages in supply of certain components; and persistently high cost of energy.Apparently, half-decent pay rises for public sector workers would fuel inflation by injecting 'too much' money into the economy - yet the multi-million pound salaries, bonuses and dividends regularly paid to private sector CEOs and shareholders don't case inflation, it seems
Increasing interest rates is a tactic to control demand side inflation (and, yes, there is an element of that at play). It's not going to help with the supply side issues.
happypig
Staring at the rude boys
If a Tory swore, they'd claim it showed they were 'human' or down-to-earth, but anyone else, and it is 'evidence' of being vulgar and uncouth, and declining moral standards.
The Tories' arrogance, hypocrisy and sheer nastiness are inexhaustible.
I don't know enough about the person the Tory targeted to comment on that specifically. But I will say that's an amazingly poor choice of tweet to respond too with an attack.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
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i didnt see anyone make that claim, seems you're creating a strawman.Apparently, half-decent pay rises for public sector workers would fuel inflation by injecting 'too much' money into the economy - yet the multi-million pound salaries, bonuses and dividends regularly paid to private sector CEOs and shareholders don't case inflation, it seems
Union fury as figures show pay rises among top earners driving inflation
The best paid have had the highest wage hikes, but the majority of the workforce has seen salary growth fall, according to ONS data
www.theguardian.com
keaton
Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
- Nov 18, 2004
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Are you talking about the abusive troll who's an MP or the abusive troll who's not?
cheshunt seagull
Well-known member
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I think 'inflationary' is defined as putting money in the pockets of people that are unlikely to vote Conservative.Apparently, half-decent pay rises for public sector workers would fuel inflation by injecting 'too much' money into the economy - yet the multi-million pound salaries, bonuses and dividends regularly paid to private sector CEOs and shareholders don't case inflation, it seems
Where have you been?
Rishi Sunak says public sector pay rises will fuel inflation. Economists say they won't
The prime minister insists he cannot bow to unions' demands because that will raise inflation for everybody. Economics professors disagree, saying it is only private sector wage increases that have an impact on inflation.
Public sector pay increase must be responsible - PM
Ministers confirm they are considering next year's public sector pay deals, as Rishi Sunak warns about inflation.
www.bbc.co.uk
Rishi Sunak prepares to block pay rises for public sector workers
Millions of public sector workers face having pay rises of 6 per cent blocked by the government amid mounting concerns that they would fuel inflation.The pri
www.thetimes.co.uk
'No point' giving public-sector workers pay rise as it would fuel inflation, says Boris Johnson
Ministers have been warned they will not get funding to offer pay rises of more than 3% to their workers
inews.co.uk
Rishi Sunak defends possible curbs on UK public sector pay
Unions condemn PM’s comments that he may disregard recommendations of independent review bodies
www.ft.com
Public sector pay rise doubt as Treasury minister stresses inflation impact
Rejecting the recommendations by the independent review bodies would be controversial after the government defended last year's below-inflation wage increases saying they were following the groups' advice.
Pay rises above inflation for public sector workers would be 'terrible mistake' Hunt says
The Chancellor has refused to bow to pressure to propose fresh pay offers after official figures showed strike action is holding back economic growth
inews.co.uk
Is there a breakdown of those stats by sector? I suspect a large chunk of the increased profit margins is within the fossil fuel extraction / energy generation sector. I'm more concerned by the late 2021-onwards Import Prices and Labour Costs elements. Would be interested in seeing a UK-specific version of this - suspect the Labour and Import elements will be even bigger.
And the second home expenses, travel expenses, subsidised restaurant etc of MPs, plus attendance expenses for 'Lords' ...are of course totally irrelevant and should never be used for comparison...Apparently, half-decent pay rises for public sector workers would fuel inflation by injecting 'too much' money into the economy - yet the multi-million pound salaries, bonuses and dividends regularly paid to private sector CEOs and shareholders don't case inflation, it seems
happypig
Staring at the rude boys
Not an attack, just a lack of empathy.
Thank you. It's always good to see some facts
alongside the emotions of debate. And... the Government are happy to quote the IMF when it suits them.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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where is the claim that private sector pay and bonus dont contribute to inflation? all those point to a claim public sector pay increases contribute to inflation - of course they do, all wage increases will. thats why th BoE governor calls for pay restraint from all sectors, making his live difficult.Where have you been?
Rishi Sunak says public sector pay rises will fuel inflation. Economists say they won't
The prime minister insists he cannot bow to unions' demands because that will raise inflation for everybody. Economics professors disagree, saying it is only private sector wage increases that have an impact on inflation.news.sky.com
Public sector pay increase must be responsible - PM
Ministers confirm they are considering next year's public sector pay deals, as Rishi Sunak warns about inflation.www.bbc.co.uk
Rishi Sunak prepares to block pay rises for public sector workers
Millions of public sector workers face having pay rises of 6 per cent blocked by the government amid mounting concerns that they would fuel inflation.The pri
'No point' giving public-sector workers pay rise as it would fuel inflation, says Boris Johnson
Ministers have been warned they will not get funding to offer pay rises of more than 3% to their workers
Rishi Sunak defends possible curbs on UK public sector pay
Unions condemn PM’s comments that he may disregard recommendations of independent review bodies
Public sector pay rise doubt as Treasury minister stresses inflation impact
Rejecting the recommendations by the independent review bodies would be controversial after the government defended last year's below-inflation wage increases saying they were following the groups' advice.
Pay rises above inflation for public sector workers would be 'terrible mistake' Hunt says
The Chancellor has refused to bow to pressure to propose fresh pay offers after official figures showed strike action is holding back economic growth
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nicko31
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The 2019 intake really are a horrible bunch of individuals, all they have is division.
Thankfully, most of these pathetic Johnson cheerleaders will lose their seats.
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beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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found source paper from IMF which has something for UK, looks roughly same proportions. page 10 if interested. a sector breakdown on page 8, predictable oil and food major contributors.
To be fair, this is by and large correct though. When I get my 3.8% payrise this year (which is what we're being offered, and which presumably Sunak thinks is too much), then I will be spending ALL of it on things like food, gas and other essentials. Therefore - every extra penny I get will be injected back into the economy.Apparently, half-decent pay rises for public sector workers would fuel inflation by injecting 'too much' money into the economy - yet the multi-million pound salaries, bonuses and dividends regularly paid to private sector CEOs and shareholders don't case inflation, it seems
Whereas the multi-millions given to private sector CEO's will be squirreled away in investments or off-shore - thus contributing nothing to the UK overall economy at all.
There doesn't have to be a 'direct' statement to this effect. The inference is incredibly strong isn't it. Sunak is not warning everyone about the dangers of private sector COE pay is he? He's only highlighting the public sector - ergo, he is basically saying that 'pay rise for my mates is ok, but for you it isn't'.