And actually there only seemed to be a vote because a Labour MP shouted 'no, no' meaning it didn't pass unvoted on. Presumably tactical to actually see which Tory MPs would 'Back Bungle Boris'
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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...
- Thread starter TomandJerry
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- Oct 12, 2022
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So there are six people who are currently MPs who would happily tell you day is night if it suited their agenda. They should not be MPs.
I’m also going to add Jacob Rees-Mogg and Lia Nici to that list as absolutely untrustworthy. When push came to shove, and the vote came around, they abstained, but in the speeches prior to the vote, they continued their attacks on the committee and the report, and persisted in trying to undermine the British parliament.
The following individuals abstained, some will have just been on their summer holidays, or like our dear Prime Minister had prior arrangements that meant that they couldn’t be there to defend our democracy. Although from looking at the list, it does seem that it’s mainly Conservatives that could afford to start their summer holidays in June. (Apologies for any errors, this list was sourced from the BBC website)
Adam Afriyie (Conservative - Windsor)
Lucy Allan (Conservative - Telford)
Fleur Anderson (Labour - Putney)
Lee Anderson (Conservative - Ashfield)
Stuart Anderson (Conservative - Wolverhampton South West)
Stuart Andrew (Conservative - Pudsey)
Caroline Ansell (Conservative - Eastbourne)
Tonia Antoniazzi (Labour - Gower)
Sarah Atherton (Conservative - Wrexham)
Victoria Atkins (Conservative - Louth and Horncastle)
Gareth Bacon (Conservative - Orpington)
Richard Bacon (Conservative - South Norfolk)
Kemi Badenoch (Conservative - Saffron Walden)
Shaun Bailey (Conservative - West Bromwich West)
Siobhan Baillie (Conservative - Stroud)
Steve Barclay (Conservative - North East Cambridgeshire)
Hannah Bardell (Scottish National Party - Livingston)
Simon Baynes (Conservative - Clwyd South)
Margaret Beckett (Labour - Derby South)
Órfhlaith Begley (Sinn Féin - West Tyrone)
Scott Benton (Independent - Blackpool South)
Paul Beresford (Conservative - Mole Valley)
Jake Berry (Conservative - Rossendale and Darwen)
Saqib Bhatti (Conservative - Meriden)
Mhairi Black (Scottish National Party - Paisley and Renfrewshire South)
Bob Blackman (Conservative - Harrow East)
Peter Bone (Conservative - Wellingborough)
Ben Bradley (Conservative - Mansfield)
Mickey Brady (Sinn Féin - Newry and Armagh)
Suella Braverman (Conservative - Fareham)
Jack Brereton (Conservative - Stoke-on-Trent South)
Paul Bristow (Conservative - Peterborough)
Sara Britcliffe (Conservative - Hyndburn)
Alex Burghart (Conservative - Brentwood and Ongar)
Conor Burns (Conservative - Bournemouth West)
Rob Butler (Conservative - Aylesbury)
Alun Cairns (Conservative - Vale of Glamorgan)
Lisa Cameron (Scottish National Party - East Kilbride, Strathaven and Lesmahagow)
Gregory Campbell (Democratic Unionist Party - East Londonderry)
James Cartlidge (Conservative - South Suffolk)
Miriam Cates (Conservative - Penistone and Stocksbridge)
Maria Caulfield (Conservative - Lewes)
Douglas Chapman (Scottish National Party - Dunfermline and West Fife)
Bambos Charalambous (Independent - Enfield, Southgate)
Joanna Cherry (Scottish National Party - Edinburgh South West)
Rehman Chishti (Conservative - Gillingham and Rainham)
Christopher Chope (Conservative - Christchurch)
Simon Clarke (Conservative - Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland)
Brendan Clarke-Smith (Conservative - Bassetlaw)
Chris Clarkson (Conservative - Heywood and Middleton)
James Cleverly (Conservative - Braintree)
Thérèse Coffey (Conservative - Suffolk Coastal)
Damian Collins (Conservative - Folkestone and Hythe)
Jeremy Corbyn (Independent - Islington North)
Alberto Costa (Conservative - South Leicestershire)
Robert Courts (Conservative - Witney)
Claire Coutinho (Conservative - East Surrey)
Angela Crawley (Scottish National Party - Lanark and Hamilton East)
Virginia Crosbie (Conservative - Ynys Môn)
Tracey Crouch (Conservative - Chatham and Aylesford)
Judith Cummins (Labour - Bradford South)
Alex Cunningham (Labour - Stockton North)
James Daly (Conservative - Bury North)
James Davies (Conservative - Vale of Clwyd)
Gareth Davies (Conservative - Grantham and Stamford)
Geraint Davies (Independent - Swansea West)
Philip Davies (Conservative - Shipley)
Dehenna Davison (Conservative - Bishop Auckland)
Caroline Dinenage (Conservative - Gosport)
Sarah Dines (Conservative - Derbyshire Dales)
Leo Docherty (Conservative - Aldershot)
Jeffrey M Donaldson (Democratic Unionist Party - Lagan Valley)
Michelle Donelan (Conservative - Chippenham)
Nadine Dorries (Conservative - Mid Bedfordshire)
Steve Double (Conservative - St Austell and Newquay)
Oliver Dowden (Conservative - Hertsmere)
Richard Drax (Conservative - South Dorset)
James Duddridge (Conservative - Rochford and Southend East)
Rosie Duffield (Labour - Canterbury)
Iain Duncan Smith (Conservative - Chingford and Woodford Green)
Mark Eastwood (Conservative - Dewsbury)
Michael Ellis (Conservative - Northampton North)
Natalie Elphicke (Conservative - Dover)
George Eustice (Conservative - Camborne and Redruth)
Nigel Evans (Deputy Speaker - Ribble Valley)
David Evennett (Conservative - Bexleyheath and Crayford)
Ben Everitt (Conservative - Milton Keynes North)
Michael Fabricant (Conservative - Lichfield)
Margaret Ferrier (Independent - Rutherglen and Hamilton West)
John Finucane (Sinn Féin - Belfast North)
Anna Firth (Conservative - Southend West)
Katherine Fletcher (Conservative - South Ribble)
Kevin Foster (Conservative - Torbay)
Liam Fox (Conservative - North Somerset)
Mark Francois (Conservative - Rayleigh and Wickford)
Lucy Frazer (Conservative - South East Cambridgeshire)
Mike Freer (Conservative - Finchley and Golders Green)
Louie French (Conservative - Old Bexley and Sidcup)
Marcus Fysh (Conservative - Yeovil)
Roger Gale (Deputy Speaker - North Thanet)
Mark Garnier (Conservative - Wyre Forest)
Nusrat Ghani (Conservative - Wealden)
Michelle Gildernew (Sinn Féin - Fermanagh and South Tyrone)
Preet Kaur Gill (Labour - Birmingham, Edgbaston)
Paul Girvan (Democratic Unionist Party - South Antrim)
John Glen (Conservative - Salisbury)
Robert Goodwill (Conservative - Scarborough and Whitby)
Michael Gove (Conservative - Surrey Heath)
Helen Grant (Conservative - Maidstone and The Weald)
James Gray (Conservative - North Wiltshire)
Chris Grayling (Conservative - Epsom and Ewell)
Chris Green (Conservative - Bolton West)
Andrew Griffith (Conservative - Arundel and South Downs)
James Grundy (Conservative - Leigh)
Jonathan Gullis (Conservative - Stoke-on-Trent North)
Louise Haigh (Labour - Sheffield, Heeley)
Robert Halfon (Conservative - Harlow)
Greg Hands (Conservative - Chelsea and Fulham)
Claire Hanna (Social Democratic & Labour Party - Belfast South)
Mark Harper (Conservative - Forest of Dean)
Rebecca Harris (Conservative - Castle Point)
Trudy Harrison (Conservative - Copeland)
Sally-Ann Hart (Conservative - Hastings and Rye)
John Hayes (Conservative - South Holland and The Deepings)
Chris Hazzard (Sinn Féin - South Down)
Oliver Heald (Conservative - North East Hertfordshire)
James Heappey (Conservative - Wells)
Chris Heaton-Harris (Conservative - Daventry)
Gordon Henderson (Conservative - Sittingbourne and Sheppey)
Mark Hendrick (Labour - Preston)
Darren Henry (Conservative - Broxtowe)
Antony Higginbotham (Conservative - Burnley)
Simon Hoare (Conservative - North Dorset)
Richard Holden (Conservative - North West Durham)
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative - Thirsk and Malton)
Philip Hollobone (Conservative - Kettering)
John Howell (Conservative - Henley)
Paul Howell (Conservative - Sedgefield)
Lindsay Hoyle (Speaker - Chorley)
Nigel Huddleston (Conservative - Mid Worcestershire)
Neil Hudson (Conservative - Penrith and The Border)
Eddie Hughes (Conservative - Walsall North)
Jane Hunt (Conservative - Loughborough)
Jeremy Hunt (Conservative - South West Surrey)
Tom Hunt (Conservative - Ipswich)
Alister Jack (Conservative - Dumfries and Galloway)
Sajid Javid (Conservative - Bromsgrove)
Ranil Jayawardena (Conservative - North East Hampshire)
Mark Jenkinson (Conservative - Workington)
Andrea Jenkyns (Conservative - Morley and Outwood)
Robert Jenrick (Conservative - Newark)
Caroline Johnson (Conservative - Sleaford and North Hykeham)
Gareth Johnson (Conservative - Dartford)
David Johnston (Conservative - Wantage)
David Jones (Conservative - Clwyd West)
Marcus Jones (Conservative - Nuneaton)
Ruth Jones (Labour - Newport West)
Afzal Khan (Labour - Manchester, Gorton)
Julian Knight (Independent - Solihull)
Greg Knight (Conservative - East Yorkshire)
Danny Kruger (Conservative - Devizes)
Kwasi Kwarteng (Conservative - Spelthorne)
Eleanor Laing (Deputy Speaker - Epping Forest)
Pauline Latham (Conservative - Mid Derbyshire)
Chris Law (Scottish National Party - Dundee West)
Edward Leigh (Conservative - Gainsborough)
Ian Levy (Conservative - Blyth Valley)
Brandon Lewis (Conservative - Great Yarmouth)
Ian Liddell-Grainger (Conservative - Bridgwater and West Somerset)
Carla Lockhart (Democratic Unionist Party - Upper Bann)
Chris Loder (Conservative - West Dorset)
Mark Logan (Conservative - Bolton North East)
Marco Longhi (Conservative - Dudley North)
Julia Lopez (Conservative - Hornchurch and Upminster)
Jack Lopresti (Conservative - Filton and Bradley Stoke)
Jonathan Lord (Conservative - Woking)
Craig Mackinlay (Conservative - South Thanet)
Cherilyn Mackrory (Conservative - Truro and Falmouth)
Rachel Maclean (Conservative - Redditch)
Angus Brendan MacNeil (Scottish National Party - Na h-Eileanan an Iar)
Alan Mak (Conservative - Havant)
Kit Malthouse (Conservative - North West Hampshire)
Scott Mann (Conservative - North Cornwall)
Paul Maskey (Sinn Féin - Belfast West)
Paul Maynard (Conservative - Blackpool North and Cleveleys)
Jason McCartney (Conservative - Colne Valley)
Stewart Malcolm McDonald (Scottish National Party - Glasgow South)
Conor McGinn (Independent - St Helens North)
Stephen McPartland (Conservative - Stevenage)
Esther McVey (Conservative - Tatton)
Mark Menzies (Conservative - Fylde)
Johnny Mercer (Conservative - Plymouth, Moor View)
Huw Merriman (Conservative - Bexhill and Battle)
Stephen Metcalfe (Conservative - South Basildon and East Thurrock)
Robin Millar (Conservative - Aberconwy)
Amanda Milling (Conservative - Cannock Chase)
Gagan Mohindra (Conservative - South West Hertfordshire)
Francie Molloy (Sinn Féin - Mid Ulster)
Damien Moore (Conservative - Southport)
Anne Marie Morris (Conservative - Newton Abbot)
David Morris (Conservative - Morecambe and Lunesdale)
James Morris (Conservative - Halesowen and Rowley Regis)
Jill Mortimer (Conservative - Hartlepool)
Wendy Morton (Conservative - Aldridge-Brownhills)
Kieran Mullan (Conservative - Crewe and Nantwich)
Sheryll Murray (Conservative - South East Cornwall)
Lia Nici (Conservative - Great Grimsby)
Neil O'Brien (Conservative - Harborough)
Matthew Offord (Conservative - Hendon)
Kate Osamor (Labour - Edmonton)
Ian Paisley (Democratic Unionist Party - North Antrim)
Priti Patel (Conservative - Witham)
Mark Pawsey (Conservative - Rugby)
Mike Penning (Conservative - Hemel Hempstead)
Andrew Percy (Conservative - Brigg and Goole)
Christopher Pincher (Independent - Tamworth)
Mark Pritchard (Conservative - The Wrekin)
Tom Pursglove (Conservative - Corby)
Jeremy Quin (Conservative - Horsham)
Will Quince (Conservative - Colchester)
Yasmin Qureshi (Labour - Bolton South East)
Dominic Raab (Conservative - Esher and Walton)
Tom Randall (Conservative - Gedling)
John Redwood (Conservative - Wokingham)
Christina Rees (Independent - Neath)
Jacob Rees-Mogg (Conservative - North East Somerset)
Gavin Robinson (Democratic Unionist Party - Belfast East)
Mary Robinson (Conservative - Cheadle)
Andrew Rosindell (Conservative - Romford)
Dean Russell (Conservative - Watford)
Naz Shah (Labour - Bradford West)
Jim Shannon (Democratic Unionist Party - Strangford)
Grant Shapps (Conservative - Welwyn Hatfield)
Alok Sharma (Conservative - Reading West)
Tommy Sheppard (Scottish National Party - Edinburgh East)
David Simmonds (Conservative - Ruislip, Northwood and Pinner)
Greg Smith (Conservative - Buckingham)
Henry Smith (Conservative - Crawley)
Royston Smith (Conservative - Southampton, Itchen)
Amanda Solloway (Conservative - Derby North)
Mark Spencer (Conservative - Sherwood)
Alexander Stafford (Conservative - Rother Valley)
Andrew Stephenson (Conservative - Pendle)
Jane Stevenson (Conservative - Wolverhampton North East)
Bob Stewart (Conservative - Beckenham)
Iain Stewart (Conservative - Milton Keynes South)
Wes Streeting (Labour - Ilford North)
Mel Stride (Conservative - Central Devon)
Graham Stuart (Conservative - Beverley and Holderness)
Rishi Sunak (Conservative - Richmond (Yorks))
Desmond Swayne (Conservative - New Forest West)
Alison Thewliss (Scottish National Party - Glasgow Central)
Derek Thomas (Conservative - St Ives)
Gareth Thomas (Labour - Harrow West)
Owen Thompson (Scottish National Party - Midlothian)
Edward Timpson (Conservative - Eddisbury)
Kelly Tolhurst (Conservative - Rochester and Strood)
Justin Tomlinson (Conservative - North Swindon)
Michael Tomlinson (Conservative - Mid Dorset and North Poole)
Craig Tracey (Conservative - North Warwickshire)
Anne-Marie Trevelyan (Conservative - Berwick-upon-Tweed)
Laura Trott (Conservative - Sevenoaks)
Elizabeth Truss (Conservative - South West Norfolk)
Shailesh Vara (Conservative - North West Cambridgeshire)
Matt Vickers (Conservative - Stockton South)
Theresa Villiers (Conservative - Chipping Barnet)
Ben Wallace (Conservative - Wyre and Preston North)
Jamie Wallis (Conservative - Bridgend)
David Warburton (Independent - Somerton and Frome)
Matt Warman (Conservative - Boston and Skegness)
Giles Watling (Conservative - Clacton)
Suzanne Webb (Conservative - Stourbridge)
Helen Whately (Conservative - Faversham and Mid Kent)
Mick Whitley (Labour - Birkenhead)
Craig Whittaker (Conservative - Calder Valley)
John Whittingdale (Conservative - Maldon)
Bill Wiggin (Conservative - North Herefordshire)
James Wild (Conservative - North West Norfolk)
Gavin Williamson (Conservative - South Staffordshire)
Sammy Wilson (Democratic Unionist Party - East Antrim)
Beth Winter (Labour - Cynon Valley)
Rosie Winterton (Deputy Speaker - Doncaster Central)
Mike Wood (Conservative - Dudley South)
Jeremy Wright (Conservative - Kenilworth and Southam)
Jacob Young (Conservative - Redcar)
Nadhim Zahawi (Conservative - Stratford-on-Avon)
The Clamp
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Seems to have shut the Mail up. Nothing to say on the matter?
nicko31
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Unless they have a decent excuse everyone of them should be out on their ear at the next election.
nicko31
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And 12 days in a row on the non curry gate
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Still they lie.
Nobby
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- Sep 29, 2007
- 2,905
Yes but that means that over 200 Tory MP’s didn’t back maintaining the integrity of Parliament.
Johnson still succeeds in sowing division and derision of democracy in this country
Hopefully many of the 200 will lose their jobs as MP’s and retreat to their country estates to wither away
- Oct 12, 2022
- 2,791
Cases like this are useful though, for identifying which individuals should or shouldn’t be in Parliament.
It seems there’s a real clear-out required by the Conservative Party, now we need to see in which direction it travels. I like to think that the party will move away from this recent crop of jackals, and move back toward being a serious political party.
However, having seen the lack of scruples exhibited by the party in recent years, there’s equally a chance it could double down on the lies and dishonesty, and try and get rid of those MPs who voted to defend the British Parliament. Time will tell.
rogersix
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- Jan 18, 2014
- 8,231
they have nothing else
nicko31
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Johnson may be gone but the damage to Tories and our wider democracy remains, a lot a parallels with the US its deeply worrying.
And remember this is the lot that obsessed about the sovereignty of parliament with their faux war with the EU.
If the Tories get spanked at the next election and many of Red wall loons go do they get a grip or move to the right? I fear the latter.
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
- 8,754
Exactly my thoughts. The parallels with US Congressmen supporting Trump whatever he does are there. Happily though, in far smaller numbers.
What concerns me even more is the media environment here. Do Mail, Express and Telegraph readers even know that Boris only got 7 votes?
nicko31
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Johnson knew his number of supporters was low so he told them to support the report, so Nads, Mogg etc abstained. But some even ignored that, in doing so it makes him look even more marginalised.
Randy McNob
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- Jun 13, 2020
- 4,732
I think the interesting thing is they will be fighting an election next year. Presumably the Tories will campaign on a Sunak led manifesto which would have similar flavour policies we currently see i.e. stop the boats. The center rights / Cameronites who secretly don't support where the party is going are in an awkward position, coupled with the idea that Johnson is still lurking in the shadows and mooting the prospect of another political party possibly teaming up with Farage which would split the Tory vote, hence why so many abstained rather than stick the knife into Johnson
nicko31
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Farage / Johnson it would never work but it would be comedy gold, 2 crypto fascists with huge egos in a sack
Yes, but only because Johnson asked people not to.
He could have won the vote if he'd wanted to, you see!
For the good of the party (and the NATION) he has decided to accept the gross injustice and allow everyone to move on... Because he's the good guy, right?
Some would say it's nigh-on saintly to be so wronged yet still be the bigger man. After all he's done for the country too - he nearly died from covid, yet single-handed delivered a vaccine rollout in double quick time, got Brexit done and built 40 new hospitals!!
Hero status just for getting Brexit done really - that vaccine wouldn't even have been possible if we had still been in the EU. We wouldn't be enjoying the sunny uplands of mega trade-deals and cavorting gaily in a sovereign world free of that wretched Brussels red-tape that was holding us back if we hadn't dumped the EU.
Just think how sh|t the NHS would be if we weren't spending that £350m a week on it?
And I've got a blue passport.
And to think some people think he deserves this woke, Marxist-led undemocratic witch-hunt and kangaroo court, just because he ate some birthday cake somebody surprised him with at a work meeting (I mean, he'd have looked rude saying no to a nice bit of lemon drizzle someone had made him).
#ImBackingBoris
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Will Sunak be leader next year, or is Penny Mordaunt plotting a leadership bid?
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
- 8,754
I see it that the tory leadership is settled now until th election. Even they can't appoint another one. The only caveat here is that if any new party revelations surface about Rishi, he's done as well.
Penny will take the reins as the leader of the opposition after the election.
nicko31
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Agree more of a crypto fascist, Farage I have my doubts
Let's get the old band back together