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BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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Kalimantan Gull

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Aug 13, 2003
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Central Borneo / the Lizard
Is he going to be able to do this? If he calls an election he won't have much of the Tory Party infrastructure to help him run his campaign and, as we don't have a presidential system, he is also going to have to get x hundred MPs of the Boris is fab party elected too. I'm not sure I can see that happening, particularly if they stand against 'official' Tory party candidates.

i was wondering if this splits the party, going into an election with half the MPs openly opposed to the leader, the other mixed. how would you even campaign?

but no. he wont call an election as that would be admission of defeat. so then i wonder how long he can continue as PM without a majority support in parliament. probably could get as far as autumn budget without needing a vote. i dont think the PM can actually resign, they have to tell the Queen who should take over and then appoint them. i dont think Johnson is going to recommend anyone. interesting times.

An election right now at this moment would be an astonishing thing. The Tories would do well to get 100 seats. A sight to behold
 


vegster

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May 5, 2008
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He won’t because he’s exposed for the sociopathic narcissist that he is. And we’ve known he is for a long time. The parallels with Trump are there for everyone to see and history remember. A man who thinks he’s Churchill’s heir, a more damaging delusional PM this country has never seen. It’s a worrying trend in politics. Hence I’d celebrate his assassination if anyone was crazy enough because if that’s what it takes these days for this new breed of ‘democratic’ politicians to go….? Basically, I’m happy to see them leave office in a box because they are beyond contempt and have become self appointed dictators such is their thirst for power and to hang onto at any cost.
Normally I would struggle to agree with you and say that we have a tradition of decency, honour and fair play. But, Johnson debases and corrupts anyone, anything and all the great offices of state that he comes in to contact with.

He's like a split tube of reverse Superglue left lying around, anything that contacts it starts to fall apart and disintergrates.

He needs to be thrown out of office by the rules and obligations that we, and particularly the Tory Party stand for. The Cabinet should resign enmasse at 9am this morning and any MP offered a post should refuse it.
 


vegster

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May 5, 2008
28,272
I don't know about fried eggs but you can certainly unboil an egg, believe it or not.
According to the rules of Chemistry it is theoretically possible to " un--cook " an egg, however, it has not been cracked so far.
 






Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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Unless I've missed him (which would be surprising) why isn't Fabri**** all over our screens?
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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Has [MENTION=2719]Mouldy Boots[/MENTION] resurfaced yet? I’m looking forward to his Bojo rallying call.
 












Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat

Several loyal to Johnson have been trying to peddle the myth of a 14 million mandate for him.
The only people who voted for Johnson, were in Uxbridge.
He is a Prime Minister, not a President. Even if the rules were manipulated 16 million voted against him.
 


TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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How many could we get today?

Helen Whately, the exchequer secretary to the Treasury, has just announced her resignation from government.

In her resignation letter to the prime minister, she said she has argued for Boris Johnson to continue in recent months but "there are only so many times you can apologies and move on".

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TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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And another unless covered yesterday...

Northern Ireland Secretary Brandon Lewis has resigned, becoming the fourth cabinet member to leave their post.

In his letter to the prime minister he says a "decent and responsible government relies on honesty, integrity and mutual respect - it is a matter of profound personal regret for me that I must leave government as I no longer believe those values are being upheld."

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Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
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Uffern
And Brandon Lewis has resigned ... for real now

That's bonkers for NI, they can't agree on a government there and have to be ruled by Westminster and now they can't do that
 


Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
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I see there is talk of BJ calling a snap election. What a move of complete stupidity and arrogance by him if true. The Conservatives have zero chance of being re elected so WTF?

Much as I find Starmer an irritation I would be more than happy to see how he copes as PM if an election is called
 


Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,315
Living In a Box
Brandon Lewis latest to resign.......

Not that it appears to matter, BJ is embarrassing the whole country now
 




DavidinSouthampton

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Several loyal to Johnson have been trying to peddle the myth of a 14 million mandate for him.
The only people who voted for Johnson, were in Uxbridge.
He is a Prime Minister, not a President. Even if the rules were manipulated 16 million voted against him.

Increasingly the parallels with “President” Trump are becoming more telling.

We are in a parliamentary democracy, where our MP is voted for by us, represents us and does things on our behalf. That vote is not a vote for the leader of the winning party.

PS - I realise you don’t need me to tell you that.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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Several loyal to Johnson have been trying to peddle the myth of a 14 million mandate for him.
The only people who voted for Johnson, were in Uxbridge.
He is a Prime Minister, not a President. Even if the rules were manipulated 16 million voted against him.

Technically yes. But who is leader plays a significant part in voting intention; you only have to read this site to realize this. The bottom line is if you voted Tory, you supported and/or enabled Boris; the will of the people.
 


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