To all of brave soldiers who are being made redundant.

[public school boy]

After what has happened recently with a certain company trusted with providing the security for London 2012, why don't our brave Lads start up a new security company? Fully fit and battle ready, who in their right mind is going to mix it with these boys?

 

[arkan]

Just because these soldiers are 'brave' doesnt mean they can be a good alternative to homeland security.

 

[pork pie]

Just because these soldiers are 'brave' doesnt mean they can be a good alternative to homeland security.

Do we actually have "Homeland Security" here? I thought that was the yanks?

 

[Worthingite]

A large proportion of ex servicemen go and work for private security firms abroad anyway - and get paid a bloody fortune for doing so. I know an ex CSM who became a "private security guard" in Iraq for 6 months and earned more in those 6 months than he would have earnt in 3 years.

 

[withdeanwombat]

After what has happened recently with a certain company trusted with providing the security for London 2012, why don't our brave Lads start up a new security company? Fully fit and battle ready, who in their right mind is going to mix it with these boys?

Quite right.

We should never have forced them into the Army in the first place.

 

[Storer 68]

After what has happened recently with a certain company trusted with providing the security for London 2012, why don't our brave Lads start up a new security company? Fully fit and battle ready, who in their right mind is going to mix it with these boys?

afghans

 

[Silent Bob]

After what has happened recently with a certain company trusted with providing the security for London 2012, why don't our brave Lads start up a new security company? Fully fit and battle ready, who in their right mind is going to mix it with these boys?

I'm sure they will appreciate this career advice from you.

 

[The Ejaculator]

What soldiers do for this country is unrivaled by anything else. They are shown a lot of respect by a lot of people and organisations but also shown a lot of ignorant disrespect by people who don't understand what it is they have done.

 

[public school boy]

I'm sure they will appreciate this career advice from you.

listening to a chat show the other week, the subject of which implied that Squaddies seem to find it hard to get work after leaving the forces, I started to think that it would be a good idea for them to start up their own security company. Too many seem to end up on the streets turning to drugs and alcohol. We owe these guys so much respect and gratitude.

 

[goldstone]

Too many seem to end up on the streets turning to drugs and alcohol.

Which is maybe a reason why some of them just might not make very good security guards.

 

[goldstone]

After what has happened recently with a certain company trusted with providing the security for London 2012, why don't our brave Lads start up a new security company? Fully fit and battle ready, who in their right mind is going to mix it with these boys?

I will undoubtedly suffer much abuse for daring to ask this question, but here goes anyway.

Are all soldiers "brave" just by signing up for the military?

If so, how do you distinguish between the ones who go overseas to fight and risk their lives, and the ones who maybe are chefs and never go into battle?

If I was one of the former (unlikely, I know) I would be a little upset to know that my fellow soldier who fries up full Englishes in the navvie back 'ome was given the same "brave" label as me.

May I suggest that the words "brave" and "hero" are rather over-used in the context of the military. Surely you need to do something brave to earn the adjective? And by calling all soldiers "brave" you are undervaluing those who put their lives in danger.

It's a bit like the word "legend" in the context of football players ...

 

[dingodan]

Don't worry about it. The intention is exactly that, for large private security firms to absorb the former service personnel and police being laid off.

Then large areas of policing will be outsourced to these unaccountable private entities, which will become a private domestic army for our corporate/political rulers.

No longer accountable to the people, no longer motivated by appeals to the public good.

 

[public school boy]

Which is maybe a reason why some of them just might not make very good security guards.

I think thy end up on the streets due to the fact that they get no help and feel dumped upon. I'm sure that there are many other reasons as well. The drink and drugs are the result of the situation in which they find themselves.

 

[dingodan]

I think thy end up on the streets due to the fact that they get no help and feel dumped upon. I'm sure that there are many other reasons as well. The drink and drugs are the result of the situation in which they find themselves.

I think it's because being paid and trained to invade foreign lands, ransack homes and kill people, and then doing it, fucks you up pretty bad.

Sorry.

 

[Biscuit]

I feel sorry for the soldiers that aren't brave as well. Being made redundant is never nice.

 

[Biscuit]

I will undoubtedly suffer much abuse for daring to ask this question, but here goes anyway.

Are all soldiers "brave" just by signing up for the military?

If so, how do you distinguish between the ones who go overseas to fight and risk their lives, and the ones who maybe are chefs and never go into battle?

If I was one of the former (unlikely, I know) I would be a little upset to know that my fellow soldier who fries up full Englishes in the navvie back 'ome was given the same "brave" label as me.

May I suggest that the words "brave" and "hero" are rather over-used in the context of the military. Surely you need to do something brave to earn the adjective? And by calling all soldiers "brave" you are undervaluing those who put their lives in danger.

It's a bit like the word "legend" in the context of football players ...

Excellent post. Being in the military does not, and should not, automatically make you a 'hero'. Using terms like that glorifies the military and that's a slippery road in my book.

 

[BadFish]

Don't worry about it. The intention is exactly that, for large private security firms to absorb the former service personnel and police being laid off.

Then large areas of policing will be outsourced to these unaccountable private entities, which will become a private domestic army for our corporate/political rulers.

No longer accountable to the people, no longer motivated by appeals to the public good.

Sounds like the police!

 

[BadFish]

I think thy end up on the streets due to the fact that they get no help and feel dumped upon. I'm sure that there are many other reasons as well. The drink and drugs are the result of the situation in which they find themselves.

PSB showing empathy and compassion and look at deeper reasons for things? Has your account been hacked?

 

[ifuhatepalacestandup]

I think it's because being paid and trained to invade foreign lands, ransack homes and kill people, and then doing it, fucks you up pretty bad.

Sorry.

cock

 

[dingodan]

cock

Why the attitude? The question was why do so many vets seem to end up on the streets turning to drugs and alcohol?

The answer is, because war fucks people up.

You might not like it, but it's true.