Time for Dick Knight to f*** off

[vulture]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Time for Dick Knight to f*** off

PUT DOWN THE SHOVEL AND WALK AWAY.

STEP AWAY FROM THE SHOVEL.

Thats good for you

 

[El Presidente]

Re: Re: Re: Time for Dick Knight to f*** off

Go and shoe shine Mr Knights boots theres a good boy

For someone claiming to have several 'a' levels and a degree you are a shining example of our educashun (sic) system.

1. Starting a sentence with 'Go and' (or 'And').

2. Knowledge of apostrophes.

3. Inability to insert a comma into a sentence.

Yes, you are very stupid, despite your qualifications.

 

[vulture]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Time for Dick Knight to f*** off

For someone claiming to have several 'a' levels and a degree you are a shining exmple of our educashun (sic) system.

1. Starting a sentence with 'Go and' (or 'And').

2. Knowledge of apostrophes.

3. Inability to insert a comma into a sentence.

Yes, you are very stupid, despite your qualifications.

Sticks and stones Sticks and Stones.

 

[Easy 10]

Right, thats the speakers sorted. Now, where is kestrels Big Bright Idea about what Dick Knight SHOULD have done to get us a stadium ?

*scans thread*

Oh, just a load of abuse. Hey-ho, guess its not so easy being an Albion chairman just trying to give the club a future after all eh. Who'd have thunk it.

 

[cjd]

You are stupid though. Rest assured of that.

I have just about had enough of these insults....! We have a supporter, who, like so many others, is beginning to feel more than just a little bit fed up with our Club,s situation. In the past, I feel Dick Knight did a good job. But we have now seen about 8 or 9 years of his reign. During this time,we have had;


1) three promotions (good)
2)moved to Withdean (good...but with the promise of a new stadium on the horeizon)
3)appointed three good managers ( Adams, Taylor & for 18 months McGhee)
4)failed to back Taylor with finances (bad)
5)appointed Martin Hinshelwood on the cheap (bad)
6)dithering over appointing Coppell, when he could have had him at the beginning of the season,ultimately resulting in relegation (bad)
7)appointing Jeff Wood, on the cheap again (bad)
8)two relegations,due to total lack of investment in players, negating the previous years successes (bad)
9)dithering over the dismissal of Mcghee, and then blaming everyone else (bad)
10)appointing Martin Perry as CEO as well as supposedly being the planning supremo of our new stadium (bad....they are two entirely seperate jobs....both needing an expert in these filelds)

Dick knight has predominantly run this club, with Martin Perry, in what appears to me, to be a "closed shop" attitude. He is determined to hang on to what we have, and risk nothing.Very admirable,but the time is coming, where just having what we have, (a poor excuse for a stadium, with shockingly poor facilities) will simply not be enough.I feel the dwindling gates is showing this to be true more than anything else, followed by the utter frustration of so many fans, particularly on NSC.
NOW is the time for Dick Knight to be making his profile higher, so we , the fans can see where we,re going. All I can hear lately , is a deafening SILENCE.

There are of course many other points.....but can someone explain to me, that if, as lord Bracknell has said on this thread, our new stadium may be nearer to us than we think, the Directors, collectively are NOT putting more money into the club...??

 

[vulture]

Right, thats the speakers sorted. Now, where is kestrels Big Bright Idea about what Dick Knight SHOULD have done to get us a stadium ?

*scans thread*

Oh, just a load of abuse. Hey-ho, guess its not so easy being an Albion chairman just trying to give the club a future after all eh. Who'd have thunk it.

A Chairman with some money for a start and a chairman who is not a total control freak

 

[vulture]

And Cjd knows more than most of you on here.

 

[El Presidente]

A Chairman with some money for a start and a chairman who is not a total control freak

Step forward Mr Bill Archer then, a man worth £400m and who was prepared to delegate day to day responsibility as well to that nice Mr. Bellotti. Nice one kestrel, sorry to take you away from Daily Star Sudoku.

 

[El Presidente]

And Cjd knows more than most of you on here.

What evidence do you have of that?

 

[The Large One]

NOW is the time for Dick Knight to be making his profile higher, so we , the fans can see where we,re going. All I can hear lately , is a deafening SILENCE.

What do you want him to say?

There are of course many other points.....but can someone explain to me, that if, as lord Bracknell has said on this thread, our new stadium may be nearer to us than we think, the Directors, collectively are NOT putting more money into the club...??

How do you know they're not?

Just because we can't necessarily see the benefits of any monies put in, doesn't follow that more money has not been injected into the club. For instance, I was very surprised when the club said that we do not NEED to sell a player to plug the 'black hole'. (Someone correct me if I have got that bit wrong). Personally, I thought the club was in far deeper shit than that, and the shit we're in is bad enough.

 

[El Presidente]

I have just about had enough of these insults....! We have a supporter, who, like so many others, is beginning to feel more than just a little bit fed up with our Club,s situation. In the past, I feel Dick Knight did a good job. But we have now seen about 8 or 9 years of his reign. During this time,we have had;


1) three promotions (good)
2)moved to Withdean (good...but with the promise of a new stadium on the horeizon)
3)appointed three good managers ( Adams, Taylor & for 18 months McGhee)
4)failed to back Taylor with finances (bad)
5)appointed Martin Hinshelwood on the cheap (bad)
6)dithering over appointing Coppell, when he could have had him at the beginning of the season,ultimately resulting in relegation (bad)
7)appointing Jeff Wood, on the cheap again (bad)
8)two relegations,due to total lack of investment in players, negating the previous years successes (bad)
9)dithering over the dismissal of Mcghee, and then blaming everyone else (bad)
10)appointing Martin Perry as CEO as well as supposedly being the planning supremo of our new stadium (bad....they are two entirely seperate jobs....both needing an expert in these filelds)

Dick knight has predominantly run this club, with Martin Perry, in what appears to me, to be a "closed shop" attitude. He is determined to hang on to what we have, and risk nothing.Very admirable,but the time is coming, where just having what we have, (a poor excuse for a stadium, with shockingly poor facilities) will simply not be enough.I feel the dwindling gates is showing this to be true more than anything else, followed by the utter frustration of so many fans, particularly on NSC.
NOW is the time for Dick Knight to be making his profile higher, so we , the fans can see where we,re going. All I can hear lately , is a deafening SILENCE.

There are of course many other points.....but can someone explain to me, that if, as lord Bracknell has said on this thread, our new stadium may be nearer to us than we think, the Directors, collectively are NOT putting more money into the club...??

I think that is a reasonably balanced assessment. The club is currently losing about £500,000 a year, that money has come from the directors. The reason why they have not put more money into the club is that they are not multimillionaires with huge amounts of disposable cash.

There is also no evidence that spending huge amounts of cash gives you success or survival.

The main reasons for the delay in Falmer is due to the intransigence and petty minded attitude of Falmer Parish Council, LDC and their cohorts.

They have exploited every legal means available to delay, filibuster and obstruct the progress to the stadium.

To expect Martin Perry to be able to single handedly deal with all of these opponents and deliver Falmer instantly is, IMO, unreasonable.

Mistakes have been made on the playing and management side, but then the same criticism can be levelled at every club in the land, all of whom have signed duff managers and players.

 

[graz126]

I have just about had enough of these insults....! We have a supporter, who, like so many others, is beginning to feel more than just a little bit fed up with our Club,s situation. In the past, I feel Dick Knight did a good job. But we have now seen about 8 or 9 years of his reign. During this time,we have had;


1) three promotions (good)
2)moved to Withdean (good...but with the promise of a new stadium on the horeizon)
3)appointed three good managers ( Adams, Taylor & for 18 months McGhee)
4)failed to back Taylor with finances (bad)
5)appointed Martin Hinshelwood on the cheap (bad)
6)dithering over appointing Coppell, when he could have had him at the beginning of the season,ultimately resulting in relegation (bad)
7)appointing Jeff Wood, on the cheap again (bad)
8)two relegations,due to total lack of investment in players, negating the previous years successes (bad)
9)dithering over the dismissal of Mcghee, and then blaming everyone else (bad)
10)appointing Martin Perry as CEO as well as supposedly being the planning supremo of our new stadium (bad....they are two entirely seperate jobs....both needing an expert in these filelds)

Dick knight has predominantly run this club, with Martin Perry, in what appears to me, to be a "closed shop" attitude. He is determined to hang on to what we have, and risk nothing.Very admirable,but the time is coming, where just having what we have, (a poor excuse for a stadium, with shockingly poor facilities) will simply not be enough.I feel the dwindling gates is showing this to be true more than anything else, followed by the utter frustration of so many fans, particularly on NSC.
NOW is the time for Dick Knight to be making his profile higher, so we , the fans can see where we,re going. All I can hear lately , is a deafening SILENCE.

There are of course many other points.....but can someone explain to me, that if, as lord Bracknell has said on this thread, our new stadium may be nearer to us than we think, the Directors, collectively are NOT putting more money into the club...??

so basically the total outcome of knights reign upto now is;
we are 1 division higher than when he took over, and we now play in brighton instead of gillingham, where we got crowds of around 2000. so our gates have actually improved aswell.

 

[cjd]

What do you want him to say?


The club is struggling, the gates are dwindling, the Falmer situation is just as murky as it was three years ago.....I would have thought it was imperative for our "leader" to show himself more and make his thoughts known on a far more regular basis.....fairly normal procedure to keep the "troops" spirits up.



How do you know they're not?

Just because we can't necessarily see the benefits of any monies put in, doesn't follow that more money has not been injected into the club. For instance, I was very surprised when the club said that we do not NEED to sell a player to plug the 'black hole'. (Someone correct me if I have got that bit wrong). Personally, I thought the club was in far deeper shit than that, and the shit we're in is bad enough.

Try looking at who we,ve let go or transferred in recent times. The wage bill has been slashed and mainly new contracts given to the youth team....(much, much cheaper).Got no problem with the younger players, been the silver lining on a very dark cloud.Apart from Revell and Elder (not exactly mind boggling fees), how many others have we bought...? There was a thread earlier, I think it was "chicken run" saying he had witnessed first hand a hot debate between Dick Knight and Wilkins, followed up I believe by story in the Argus, that Wilkins wants Whing (blatantly obvious to me).......but we don,t have him do we...? Ask yourself...why not...?

 

[The Large One]

Try looking at who we,ve let go or transferred in recent times. The wage bill has been slashed and mainly new contracts given to the youth team....(much, much cheaper).Got no problem with the younger players, been the silver lining on a very dark cloud.Apart from Revell and Elder (not exactly mind boggling fees), how many others have we bought...? There was a thread earlier, I think it was "chicken run" saying he had witnessed first hand a hot debate between Dick Knight and Wilkins, followed up I believe by story in the Argus, that Wilkins wants Whing (blatantly obvious to me).......but we don,t have him do we...? Ask yourself...why not...?

This is NOT the point I was making, even though I suspected it was the point you were trying to make. I was talking about directors putting money into the club to keep it going, way before any money gets made available to strengthen the playing budget.

We don't know half the story on Andrew Whing, aside from he was very happy here, and the club wants to sign him. However, Coventry have only just recalled him. We don't know whether Coventry are prepared to negotiate a figure for him, and that's even presuming we're prepared to let him go at all. Dick may well have been in talks with Coventry for yonks. Coventry may well have NEVER intended selling Whing. Coventry might want an excessive amount of money for him. Coventry might not want to let him go at all, and so on and so on. All these things might also be true, yet you choose to presume (or the very least strongly highlight) a supposedly tight-fisted board.

 

[The Large One]

Originally posted by cjd
The club is struggling, the gates are dwindling, the Falmer situation is just as murky as it was three years ago.....I would have thought it was imperative for our "leader" to show himself more and make his thoughts known on a far more regular basis.....fairly normal procedure to keep the "troops" spirits up.

I'm still not sure what you mean.

You want him to be a cheerleader? Issue a monthly 'Dick Says...' column in the programme? But to say what? If/When there's news on Falmer, we hear about it. If/When there's transfer news, we hear about it, etc. What else do you want him to say? That's basically 'everything's OK'.

I'm not trying to be flippant, but I'm really not sure what you want to hear from him.

 

[DJ Leon]

I have just about had enough of these insults....! We have a supporter, who, like so many others, is beginning to feel more than just a little bit fed up with our Club,s situation. In the past, I feel Dick Knight did a good job. But we have now seen about 8 or 9 years of his reign. During this time,we have had;


1) three promotions (good)
2)moved to Withdean (good...but with the promise of a new stadium on the horeizon)
3)appointed three good managers ( Adams, Taylor & for 18 months McGhee)
4)failed to back Taylor with finances (bad)
5)appointed Martin Hinshelwood on the cheap (bad)
6)dithering over appointing Coppell, when he could have had him at the beginning of the season,ultimately resulting in relegation (bad)
7)appointing Jeff Wood, on the cheap again (bad)
8)two relegations,due to total lack of investment in players, negating the previous years successes (bad)
9)dithering over the dismissal of Mcghee, and then blaming everyone else (bad)
10)appointing Martin Perry as CEO as well as supposedly being the planning supremo of our new stadium (bad....they are two entirely seperate jobs....both needing an expert in these filelds)

Dick knight has predominantly run this club, with Martin Perry, in what appears to me, to be a "closed shop" attitude. He is determined to hang on to what we have, and risk nothing.Very admirable,but the time is coming, where just having what we have, (a poor excuse for a stadium, with shockingly poor facilities) will simply not be enough.I feel the dwindling gates is showing this to be true more than anything else, followed by the utter frustration of so many fans, particularly on NSC.
NOW is the time for Dick Knight to be making his profile higher, so we , the fans can see where we,re going. All I can hear lately , is a deafening SILENCE.

There are of course many other points.....but can someone explain to me, that if, as lord Bracknell has said on this thread, our new stadium may be nearer to us than we think, the Directors, collectively are NOT putting more money into the club...??

Nice to see you arguing for more respect in a thread entitled 'Time for Dick Knight to f*** off'.

At least you've actually put down an argument for your criticism of the board, I'll give you that. kestrel has just spewed random abuse and nonsense and when asked to provide an argument of substance has refused. It's a STUPID thread by a stupid poster - most seem to agree with this.

Regarding your post, I'd firstly say that it's not MOST Albion fans that are frustrated by our situation, it's ALL Albion fans. The difference between you and the majority is that you seem to think that the difficulties faced in gaining planning permission for our stadium (and all the problems coming from living in a small, temporary ground) is the fault of the Chairman and the board. This is nonsense, but if you disagree, feel free to let us all know how the appeal against the YES decision and the actions of LDC are the fault of Perry and Knight. Enlighten us.

You also seem to be flabbergasted by the lack of investment from the Chairman and the board. Quite why you're amazed by this is baffling. The Chairman and the board have invested a great deal in the club, but clearly do not have bottomless pits of money. And clearly we don't have the means of generating it. What do you expect? An investment of millions? Perhaps you're one of these people that think that they should stand aside for the investors that don't exist? Take a REALITY check, I'm not putting forward arguments so much as pointing out facts.

Your list of the good things and bad things that happened under Knight makes interesting reading. If I could put into priority order, returning to Sussex would be at the top. We fought long and hard for that and nobody thought that once we were back we would be Manchester United within 5 years. Except it seems, you. Three promotions is apparently 'GOOD', under the circumstances I'd use the word 'EXCEPTIONAL'. We all went to Cardiff, remember that? 'EXCEPTIONAL' . We appointed Taylor, Coppell and McGhee all managers with excellent reputations, despite having no real transfer kitty and despite being shackled by a small, temporary home - 'EXCEPTIONAL'. And yes, Knight may have a made a few bad decisions, but then again what manager or Chairman hasn't? Do you want a 100% success rate for EVERY decision? Because you're looking for the impossible.

The reason why these threads are STUPID is because their haven't been any valid arguments put forward in them about why the Chairman and board are underperforming. It's all just random soundbites about how Perry hasn't got us Falmer yet, how we don't have money to sign *insert player we can't afford* and how Dick Knight is to blame for a one-nil loss to Bournemouth.

In a word, it's all just STUPID.

 

[cjd]

so basically the total outcome of knights reign upto now is;
we are 1 division higher than when he took over, and we now play in brighton instead of gillingham, where we got crowds of around 2000. so our gates have actually improved aswell.

You are indeed correct.....but we need to look at what is happening presently. The club is in difficult times.....gates ARE falling.....many supporters are disenchanted with events at the club besides the playing side. Falmer is going on and on and on. Dick Knight is SILENT.

 

[The Large One]

You are indeed correct.....but we need to look at what is happening presently. The club is in difficult times.....gates ARE falling.....many supporters are disenchanted with events at the club besides the playing side. Falmer is going on and on and on. Dick Knight is SILENT.

There is a big difference in the playing quality of Mark McGhee's side and Dean Wilkins' side, and it is getting better. Bit by bit - it is getting better. People that were lost to the Albion during MM's reign ought to come back and be seeing a marked improvement, and supporting their local 'kids'.

I suspect the falling gates is precisely because we are still at Withdean, and people are utterly sick of the place. I know I am - but I'll still go.

BUT... what do you want Dick to say...?

 

[El Presidente]

Dick Knight is SILENT.

That is his perogative, the role of Chairman is not to keep NSC up to date on all aspects of the club.

We do pretty well compared to most clubs, the board have sanctioned Insider to answer questions for imformation that is not prejudicial to be in the public domain.

 

[Happy Seagull]

What? How about providing money for MEN to play instead of kids?

With the club losing money each week, are you expecting him to start robbing banks?