The snow is an excuse to

[Hungry Joe]

My point was that at the time I was annoyed that I couldn't deposit the money to help somebody out due to the bank being closed early because of the weather, which I considered to be unreasonable, but I completely forgot about using on line banking facilities. Any way no harm done and no offense taken.

Ok. Cool.

 

[JCL666]

Oh your a feisty one !

Because they are paid for the hours they work, not for commuting to and from. Getting home at a reasonable time is not the employers responsibility, the're safety is, but not when they get home. Not only do they expect to go early but also expect the're employer to pay them to go home early.
If the employee wants to leave and the're is cover for their position and they don't want payment for not being there fine, but we all know that's not the case.
They quite often use the weather as an excuse for unpaid leave.

As stated by other above, far to many use the excuse that it will take them longer to get home and turn it into a H&S issue which it isn't, just means it will take them longer to get home.
The question about your situation was not a difficult one, although for what ever reason you struggled with it.
How as the current weather situation affected you? have you needed to sneak off home early under the pretence of H&S?

You talk a lot of shit.

 

[amexee]

Jesus f***ing wept, its snowed a bit , get over it, thats the long and the short of it, I came home from London expecting haywards heath to resemble a scene from the siege of leningrad , the whole area has come to a virtual standstill because of a bit of snow, its ridiculous , we have TALKED ourselves into this situation.

Hear, hear. I live in HH, worked in BH and then drove to Goddards Green at 5pm and then back to HH at 6pm. I am no superman, I was driving a rear wheel drive saloon and can honestly say that by sticking to no more than 40mph I had no problem. I think lots of people act like school kids, wanting a snow day.

I have been off work when ill, and I will freely admit to throwing some extra sickies, but I would be embarased to say that 2 inches of snow got in my way, because I am an adult

 

[el punal]

Shut the banks early as I went to Nat West in Haywards Heath and they were shut with a notice that it was due to the bad weather it closed at 2pm why? Was it snowing inside the bank and stopped the computers working? I can never understand how people or businesses can use the weather as an excuse to close early.

Oh dear. He'll be disappointed with that.

 

[Fungus]

TBH, the modern world means that most people have to travel a lot further to work these days. At times like this, it all unravels, unless we have the opportunity to work from home.

FWIW, I was sent home at 2pm (by a bank, as it happens!), but I'll have to make the time up - I don't expect to get paid for nothing. Not that I actually got home much earlier.

 

[mistahclarke]

I shut my work early snd sent 10 staff home, because i put staff safety over profit.

from what exactly? Slipping on ice (note I said ice even though it was just snow at this point and not frozen to ice yet)? Do you also keep them indoors when it rains for their safety? Wet floors can be slippery too. Bet you stop them going home at rush hour too as there is a higher percentage they may get hit by a bus.

The rest of the world must laugh at us. In Canada do they shut when it snows? Sorry boss, can't come to work today as there is snow, I'll be back in the spring. They must get f*** all done in the Arctic then!

 

[mistahclarke]

It's in central Europe. They get far more bastardy winters than we do, ergo they've invested in the infrastructure to cope with it and prevent their country grinding to a halt for weeks on end. We get, what, a couple of days snow a year, and frankly it's only in the last three or four years that we've even had that.

If you want the government to spend billions on snowploughs and other such kit to sit in the garage for 364 days a year, then feel free to increase your tax payments to assist them in funding it.

Me, I'd rather just keep it simple: watch out for the weather forecast, and plan my routine accordingly for the rare occasions when it actually snows.

Trains were cancelled before it even snowed, on the day before. If anyone can tell me 100% it wasn't to prepare for their staff not coming in to work, I will be surprised.

 

[Garage_Doors]

You talk a lot of shit.

Very well thought out response.
Unfortunately your lack or rational debating skills do not let us see what you actual opinions are.
Which part do you disagree with, if all, break them down. lets start with:
Do you believe employees should be paid for going home early when it snows?

 

[BensGrandad]

Very well thought out response.
Unfortunately your lack or rational debating skills do not let us see what you actual opinions are.
Which part do you disagree with, if all, break them down. lets start with:
Do you believe employees should be paid for going home early when it snows?

If you asked me the same question I would say no it should be an option that is offered to protect employees as is required under H & S Laws,I am told, but accepted at their own cost.

 

[Bry Nylon]

I get the train to work. I fully anticipated that it wouldn't be running today so I got up 3 hours earlier than normal to allow me to walk the 9 miles to work if needs be.

As it turned out, the trains in my area were running normally, but if I had had to I would have walked in, done my job and walked home again.

 

[Garage_Doors]

If you asked me the same question I would say no it should be an option that is offered to protect employees as is required under H & S Laws,I am told, but accepted at their own cost.

Thats the point i made in post #68
Because they are paid for the hours they work, not for commuting to and from. Getting home at a reasonable time is not the employers responsibility, the're safety is, but not when they get home. Not only do they expect to go early but also expect the're employer to pay them to go home early.
If the employee wants to leave and the're is cover for their position and they don't want payment for not being there fine, but we all know that's not the case.
They quite often use the weather as an excuse for unpaid leave.

As stated by other above, far to many use the excuse that it will take them longer to get home and turn it into a H&S issue which it isn't, just means it will take them longer to get home.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

Do you believe employees should be paid for going home early when it snows?

Most employees don't expect to be paid if they go home early because of the weather. It's stated they won't be in most companies policies relating to bad weather. A majority will be expected to make the time up or take the time they didn't work as leave or flexi time.

The company I work for state that we must get to the nearest site if we can, if that isn't possible and if its agreed with local management then we can work from home. If we can't get to a site or wfh then we have to take a days leave.

 

[Northstandite]

Good heavens. How did people cope when we had 'real' snow? Safety should always be a priority of course, but far too many people make far too many excuses and pin the responsibility on mother nature ( ie rail services )

It's in central Europe. They get far more bastardy winters than we do, ergo they've invested in the infrastructure to cope with it and prevent their country grinding to a halt for weeks on end. We get, what, a couple of days snow a year, and frankly it's only in the last three or four years that we've even had that.

If you want the government to spend billions on snowploughs and other such kit to sit in the garage for 364 days a year, then feel free to increase your tax payments to assist them in funding it.

Me, I'd rather just keep it simple: watch out for the weather forecast, and plan my routine accordingly for the rare occasions when it actually snows.

Top post.
Someone with sense.

After the snowy winters of 1985, 1986, and 1987 (the latter comprised one week of severe cold and snow), Kent County Council famously spent a six figure sum on a giant road snow blower.

It then sat in a garage for 20 years as S E England's normal pattern post-1960s, of non snowy winters resumed.

It simply isn't a financial priority for public money (debt) to be wasted on yet more snow clearing equipment.

 

[JCL666]

Very well thought out response.
Unfortunately your lack or rational debating skills do not let us see what you actual opinions are.
Which part do you disagree with, if all, break them down. lets start with:
Do you believe employees should be paid for going home early when it snows?

Hey I tell you what, why don't we start with you sticking your snidey comments up your arse?

 

[Garage_Doors]

Hey I tell you what, why don't we start with you sticking your snidey comments up your arse?

Well done, don't want debate, but just chuck insults, very grown up.
Do you believe employees should be paid for going home early when it snows?

 

[Garage_Doors]

Most employees don't expect to be paid if they go home early because of the weather. It's stated they won't be in most companies policies relating to bad weather. A majority will be expected to make the time up or take the time they didn't work as leave or flexi time.

The company I work for state that we must get to the nearest site if we can, if that isn't possible and if its agreed with local management then we can work from home. If we can't get to a site or wfh then we have to take a days leave.

That sounds reasonable for both sides.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Most posters on this thread appear to be employees (apart from 1 who did send his staff home but hasn't told us what they do). Even those that can send staff home appear to be managers.

I'm now self employed on my farm so working in this weather isn't up for question I carry on, have to or my animals die. Anyhow in my previous businesses I've employed many people and would expect them to work their normal hours unless they had a problem such as kids home from school. I many have had a duty of care but it doesn't mean I had to mother them. I was a manger for BA at Gatwick ending up H & S manager so do have a little knowledge about it. Lastly one thing that really bugs me is when a staff member complains that due to them living a long way away they need to leave. It's a life choice to live that far away, tough.

 

[Fungus]

Do you believe employees should be paid for going home early when it snows?

I very much doubt that many employees "get paid for going home early when it snows", especially with larger companies.

 

[Fungus]

Lastly one thing that really bugs me is when a staff member complains that due to them living a long way away they need to leave. It's a life choice to live that far away, tough.

Sometimes, but my office moved from a mile up the road, to the other side of town - 8 miles away.

 

[Peever]

Shut the banks early as I went to Nat West in Haywards Heath and they were shut with a notice that it was due to the bad weather it closed at 2pm why? Was it snowing inside the bank and stopped the computers working? I can never understand how people or businesses can use the weather as an excuse to close early.

WEek ago we had 8 inches of snow on the ground and we shut our restaurant 2 hours early.....2 staff got stuck driving home and I barely made it. So sometimes the weather can be an excuse to close early