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JamieR

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Jan 25, 2020
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It's quite sad that you would seem to have wanted another 4 or 5 years of despair, lies and stagnation. Oh, and the rain is excellent for my allotment.
You forgot to mention the blatant cronyism & corruption that made a Burlusconi government look legit, a complete lack of governance during covid, together with the highest structural debt since WW2 with no family silver left to sell off to reduce it.
 




KZNSeagull

Well-known member
Nov 26, 2007
21,093
Wolsingham, County Durham
I see this not only didn't happen, but was over 7000 votes from happening.

Pleasing.
When the NE went blue last time, Boris recognised that they had lent him their vote and it was up to him to deliver something for them. He failed, the pandemic didn't help of course, but quietly dropping levelling up was a massive balls up. Then Truss happened screwing everyone. Now that it has gone red again but there was a sizeable Reform vote, do you think that unless Labour deliver for the NE and quickly, another shift will happen in the next election?
 










Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,097
Faversham
I’m surprised he has not resigned as an MP.

Perhaps that comes after the Tory leadership election.
Sunk gave a dignified speech. Gracious towards Starmer. Well done.
 




peterward

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Nov 11, 2009
12,269
Like many on here, I didn't like Sunak and never believed he understood the plight of normal working people, but maybe he was still the least worse of the recent heads of his party, if that's any accolade.

It was still good that a person of Indian origin was able to be PM as that reflects well on our culture and society.

To his credit, his farewell speech was both graceful and magnanimous.

Let us never take for granted the peaceful hand over of power and grace in defeat, when our biggest global ally has dismissed that notion and a party that wants to mirror his ways took over 4 million and made sizeable % gains.
 




Bozza

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Helpful Moderator
Jul 4, 2003
57,284
Back in Sussex
Just scanning some results and I see all furore around Faiza Shaheen's deselection in Chingford and Woodford Green almost certainly kept IDS in a job...

IDS (Con) - 17,281
Shama Tatler (Lab) - 12,524
Faiza Shaheen (Ind) - 12,445

 


amexer

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Aug 8, 2011
6,830
Certainly Reform votes cost Tories dear. Would I be right in thinking that like UKIP votes at BREXIT 90% Reform votes would be about immigration.
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,272
You forgot to mention the blatant cronyism & corruption that made a Burlusconi government look legit, a complete lack of governance during covid, together with the highest structural debt since WW2 with no family silver left to sell off to reduce it.
It wasn't an inclusive list...but I think he got the jist, there are plenty of other issues to add but, life's too short !
 






A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
20,537
Deepest, darkest Sussex
A quick summary of how this morning's events will unfold: First, Southgate will go to Buckingham Palace to offer his resignation to the king. Then Potter will arrive for his first audience with Charles
This could take a while then as every time Southgate looks like he's about to move forward toward the King, Declan Rice steps in and moves him back toward his own keeper
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
69,252
Withdean area
Really …. Do they just pick the bits that they like. Look at question time and the non entities from the right of the political spectrum that regularly turned up. It’ll be interesting to see what happens under a new chairman and DG considering the present pair are rabid brexiteers.

17.4m folk voted for Brexit, many many millions voted for Reform last night. That eclectic bunch of right wingers who appear on QT represent that mindset.

If I had my way anyone from either extreme who held racist, antisemitic, hate speech, misogynistic or fundamentalist views wouldn’t get TV or radio time. But who are you or I to determine such things.
 
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vegster

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May 5, 2008
28,272


jackalbion

Well-known member
Aug 30, 2011
4,913
Just scanning some results and I see all furore around Faiza Shaheen's deselection in Chingford and Woodford Green almost certainly kept IDS in a job...

IDS (Con) - 17,281
Shama Tatler (Lab) - 12,524
Faiza Shaheen (Ind) - 12,445

Everyone involved in this, Labour, The Independent is a complete idiot. They shouldn't have deselected her, but then she shouldn't have run. Poor decision making.
 


Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
57,284
Back in Sussex
36 hours ago he was happy calling Starmer a liar. Which Sunak is the real one I wonder ?
Starmer is a decent-enough chap to throw some positivity in Sunak's direction when he gets his turn in front of the cameras. We'll find out soon enough.

It's just like boxing, isn't it? All trashtalk before the event, with kisses and cuddles immediately afterwards.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,097
Faversham
36 hours ago he was happy calling Starmer a liar. Which Sunak is the real one I wonder ?
The one today. He has nothing to gain by not being ****ish. He could easily have snarled blame about the steal. I think he made a mistake, previously, denigrating what is obviously an honourable opponent.

People asking why Labour got only 35% and people are unimpressed with Starmer. It is because the people have been trained to expect a circus with clowns and hubris, Get Brexit Done. Etc.. Starmer isn't like that. He isn't like Blair either. I have a feeling he will be more popular in 5 years time than he is now, though.
 






Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
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