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[Politics] The NSC 'up all night' election night *** OFFICIAL MATCH THREAD ***



TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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Sunak to make statement at 10.30am

Starmer to address nation at about 12.20pm

PA Media reports he will then travel to Buckingham Palace for an audience with the King, where he is expected to formally tender his resignation.

Then Keir Starmer will see the King at the palace.

He will be appointed as the country’s next prime minister and asked to form an administration. He will then be driven to Downing Street to address the nation for the first time as prime minister at around 12.20pm.

Timings are subject to change, No 10 noted.
 




Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
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Which is exactly the route of attack Farage has already started with
Ironic given their vote share was less than their poll prediction, against a Tory party that are as popular as a fart in a space suit.

In reality only about one in ten of us are THAT fascist. The vast majority of British people are fair, reasonable and intelligent
 


Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
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Yes. Anyone pointing out Labour’s vote share is ignoring the fact that there was a lot of tactical voting among progressives, which is a factor in the LDs doing so well.

This wasn’t a vote to get Labour in as much as the Tories out and many on the centre and left have organised to achieve this.

It worked. About f***ing time.
Not to mention that the Tories had to put up with having their vote split by Reform.

They've had 100 years of benefitting from having a split in the opposing parties.

Big moment for the Tories - do they merge with Reform to bring back their advantage?
Or try to regain the centre?
 


TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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Ironic given their vote share was less than their poll prediction, against a Tory party that are as popular as a fart in a space suit.

In reality only about one in ten of us are THAT fascist. The vast majority of British people are fair, reasonable and intelligent
It'll be interesting to see how they build into the next election though.

I imagine they will have a lot more air time considering they now have 4 MPs
 


beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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Corbyn winning 50% of the Islington North vote with only 6 weeks campaigning. Remarkable
he was fairly well known.
 




Guinness Boy

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It'll be interesting to see how they build into the next election though.

I imagine they will have a lot more air time considering they now have 4 MPs
If they got any more air time you’d have to rebrand the whole media to GB News
 


Berty23

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Jun 26, 2012
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Rmemeber when people say the polls are useless. They pretty much nailed it despite all those tight seats. Remarkable.

Yes they got reform wrong but they said they were worried about that.
 










Mo Gosfield

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Aug 11, 2010
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Yep, it's easy pickings, the danger for SKS is he has to hit the ground running.

First day on the job and LHR T2 shut and it's raining 🤣 get him out!

Interestingly the pro Palestine independents have won more seats that reform
Reform got a higher percentage of the national vote than the LD. One party has 4 seats, the other has 71. That tells you all you need to know about this archaic and un-democratic voting system. Two parties have been allowed to control our politics for years, carving up the seats between them. Study the figures and see how relatively little the Labour vote has changed and yet it creates a landslide.
It doesn't reflect the true voting patterns. Its a default result.
 






borat

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Jul 16, 2003
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he was fairly well known.

True, he has name recognition. Labour had all the data though and 6 weeks is nothing in terms of starting a new campaign. I think it's also because the Labour candidate had significant private healthcare interests and Corbyn is well known in Islington for looking out for his local constituents.

Anyway. Great to see a decent man in parliament.
 






Mo Gosfield

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Aug 11, 2010
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Wow!! Much bettet results than the exir polls. Absolutely delighted for Green and of course, the Labour landslide. Very pleased Reform only got a couple rather than 13 sears! Majority of parties in power are centre and to the left, pleasing. Proud if us today, kicked out the scum. 🇬🇧
I repeat.....Reform got more of the national vote than LD and Green.
 




Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
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Reform got a higher percentage of the national vote than the LD. One party has 4 seats, the other has 71. That tells you all you need to know about this archaic and un-democratic voting system. Two parties have been allowed to control our politics for years, carving up the seats between them. Study the figures and see how relatively little the Labour vote has changed and yet it creates a landslide.
It doesn't reflect the true voting patterns. Its a default result.
It depends what you think democracy is.

Populists will always get high percentages of the vote during challenging times.
The Lib Dems will have a slew of high quality MP candidates, with a history of working in local government.
Reform won't.

If we apply PR to last night's results, Reform get 90 odd seats.
I suspect the 30th - 90th strongest Reform candidate, may not be the strongest political operator and might not actually give much of a f*** about 90% of their job as an MP.
 


BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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Interesting that Lib Dems get 71 seats with a smaller percentage of the vote than Reform, with 4 seats.
If that isn't an argument for FPTP, I don't know what is.
We don't know how people's votes would change in a different system though.

Lots of tactical and protest voting happening that may not in a PR system.
 








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