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[Politics] The NSC 'up all night' election night *** OFFICIAL MATCH THREAD ***







beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,993
I think the takeaway from this election is obvious. Who outperformed the Exit Poll the most? The Lib Dems.

Therefore, the story is clear. Party leaders should do more stunts on the election trail.
more stunts, less policy. kinda worked for Johnson too, so there's a trend.
 




Uh_huh_him

Well-known member
Sep 28, 2011
12,083
That’s a bit of a circular, self-fulfilling argument, though.
I disagree - Reform's performance + tactical voting, is what has done for the Tories, so it is an important story.

However there was very little fuss made about UKIP standing down to secure a Tory victory in 2019.
 


Guinness Boy

Tofu eating wokerati
Helpful Moderator
NSC Patron
Jul 23, 2003
37,311
Up and Coming Sunny Portslade
Thoughts?
I should have had the courage of my convictions and stuck on a few quid instead of believing in a margin of error!

I’d say around 120.

The Johnson majority in 2019 made me some decent cash at the bookies. I’m far less confident of this prediction. Feels like it has a margin of error of 40 ish either way.
 




Muzzman

Pocket Rocket
Jul 8, 2003
5,452
Here and There
So Sunderland were first, I wonder who'll be last. I seem to recall we often have to wait for votes from the Isles of Scilly, delivered by an old man in a rowing boat.
 








Sid and the Sharknados

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 4, 2022
5,659
Darlington
So obviously Labour were going to win.
Unfortunately too many people happy to spend the next 5 years of crap and higher taxes.

Awaiting all the Labour voters quoting my post. Don't bother. Not interested.
So only 1 in 3 voted for Labour and put them in power. The majority did not so should be good seeing Labour put through hell.
Hopefully the King will tell him what a twat he is and refuse him to become a Prime Minister
Used all my tears laughing at you lot actually thinking Labour will improve things. 😆 deluded.
I admire your commitment to remaining "not interested".
 


Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
5,445
Mid Sussex
Farage is a narcissist more than anything else.

How people can't see through him is beyond me.
narcissist‘s have a very short half life when put under the microscop.

ironically the one thing he craves, that of being an MP, is the thing that will screw him over.
He’s going to be under a microscope with both labour and the Tories wanting to rip him a new one. The new speaker will be very hard nosed which means he’ll sit on Farage and his ilk when they start playing up.
 


Rdodge30

Well-known member
Dec 30, 2022
589
I should have had the courage of my convictions and stuck on a few quid instead of believing in a margin of error!
Spare a thought for me, my only involvement this time round was going under on every voter turnout bet I could find - all of which have come in and added together equaled my ‘all in’ stake on 59.9% or under at 3/1 with sky bet ….so currently I’m even and it just keeps sitting there at 60% … only 5 left to declare


My thoughts were that the ID would be a massive factor !!
 




AlbionBro

Well-known member
Jun 6, 2020
1,400
Do we know how many of our politically seats were down to the tactically voting? We were fortunate not to have to vote tactically. I am a little concerned that we may have too many lib dems that perhaps are only there because they are not Tories. How is this going to effect parliament?
 


TomandJerry

Well-known member
Oct 1, 2013
12,323
Do we know how many of our politically seats were down to the tactically voting? We were fortunate not to have to vote tactically. I am a little concerned that we may have too many lib dems that perhaps are only there because they are not Tories. How is this going to effect parliament?
I believe tactical voting played a huge part in getting the Lib Dems more seats

They won't have much of a say, Labour have a big enough majority to do what they want
 






Sid and the Sharknados

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 4, 2022
5,659
Darlington
Do we know how many of our politically seats were down to the tactically voting? We were fortunate not to have to vote tactically. I am a little concerned that we may have too many lib dems that perhaps are only there because they are not Tories. How is this going to effect parliament?
Well on the basis that the fewer Conservatives there are the better, it'll drastically improve it.

The voting system's f***ed up, but it's not suddenly more f***ed up just because the tories have found themselves on the wrong end of it.
 


Lyndhurst 14

Well-known member
Jan 16, 2008
5,239
Rather fitting that the current shot of Downing Street shows it pissing down with rain, just like it was when Sunak's inauspicious campaign started
 


Bodian

Well-known member
May 3, 2012
14,155
Cumbria
Rmemeber when people say the polls are useless. They pretty much nailed it despite all those tight seats. Remarkable.

Yes they got reform wrong but they said they were worried about that.
The exit poll - yes.

But the pre-vote polls over-estimated labour and under-estimated conservatives.

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TomandJerry

Well-known member
Oct 1, 2013
12,323
The five constituencies yet to declare are:

  • Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and Tweeddale
  • Dumfries and Galloway
  • Inverness, Skye and West Ross-shire
  • Poole
  • South Basildon and East Thurrock
 




BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,181


virtual22

Well-known member
Nov 30, 2010
443
Reform got a higher percentage of the national vote than the LD. One party has 4 seats, the other has 71. That tells you all you need to know about this archaic and un-democratic voting system. Two parties have been allowed to control our politics for years, carving up the seats between them. Study the figures and see how relatively little the Labour vote has changed and yet it creates a landslide.
It doesn't reflect the true voting patterns. Its a default result.
Same thing happened to the Lib Dems in 2017, they got 7.4% of the national vote and got 12 seats, the SNP got 3% and got 35 seats. In 2019 it was even worse, Lib Dems got 11.5% of the vote and had 11 seats, SNP had 3.9% and got 48 seats.
 


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