[Politics] The Labour Government

[A mex eyecan]

Before the election Starmer clearly defined working people as those who couldn't just write a cheque to cover problems. I would suggest that under that definition people earning over £100,000 a year (about 4% of the workforce) would not be in that definition.

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Perhaps then he thinks working class people are on quite a bit less than 100k. If so there could be many many more people about to see their taxes go up

 

[fly high]

Before the election Starmer clearly defined working people as those who couldn't just write a cheque to cover problems. I would suggest that under that definition people earning over £100,000 a year (about 4% of the workforce) would not be in that definition.

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Didn't he also at one time say 'workers don't have savings'. That statement pretty much says that. This allows him to target anyone who does have savings & people who earn less than £100k will be in that bracket.

 

[Bodian]

Perhaps then he thinks working class people are on quite a bit less than 100k. If so there could be many many more people about to see their taxes go up

4% of the workforce.

 

[Bodian]

Didn't he also at one time say 'workers don't have savings'. That statement pretty much says that. This allows him to target anyone who does have savings & people who earn less than £100k will be in that bracket.

The only way of doing that would be to increase tax paid on savings, remove the £1,000 threshold, or remove the tax-free ISA.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Perhaps then he thinks working class people are on quite a bit less than 100k. If so there could be many many more people about to see their taxes go up

Maybe he thinks we can all just ask a rich friend to clothe us

 

[Bold Seagull]

Maybe he thinks we can all just ask a rich friend to clothe us

Could always ask Truss and Kwarteng back for budgetary advice for helping working people?

 

[A mex eyecan]

The only way of doing that would be to increase tax paid on savings, remove the £1,000 threshold, or remove the tax-free ISA.

or increase tax % on earnings over whatever he thinks is above ‘working class’

 

[A mex eyecan]

4% of the workforce.

isn’t the 4% earning over 100k?

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Could always ask Truss and Kwarteng back for budgetary advice for helping working people?

Considering what is being rumoured, maybe Labour did?

 

[Is it PotG?]

Could always ask Truss and Kwarteng back for budgetary advice for helping working people?

They’re long gone, history.

I was told of a world of milk and honey with the ‘grown-ups’ back in the room.

 

[Bold Seagull]

They’re long gone, history.

I was told of a world of milk and honey with the ‘grown-ups’ back in the room.

Pretty sure no one mentioned milk and honey, have you been nostalgically revisiting your Benny Hill albums?

 

[fly high]

The only way of doing that would be to increase tax paid on savings, remove the £1,000 threshold, or remove the tax-free ISA.

What's to say they won't? Guess we just have to wait and see.

 

[Machiavelli]

4% of the workforce.

Those that are responding to you fall into one, some or all of the following categories:
-- they don't earn over £100k a year
-- they don't work, because they've retired
-- they don't live in the UK, so won't be hit by taxes on work in the UK
-- they've somehow been convinced that because they've got savings or assets in excess of £100k, this means that it'll fall under proposed taxes on those earning over £100k a year (even though such a taxation hasn't been leaked to a reliable source -- unlike, for instance, the proposed rise in employer contribution to NI).

But, they'll go on and on on this thread, complaining about things, wanting lower taxes, public debt to fall to zero, and public services to improve. That's how this thread has played out in recent months.

 

[Machiavelli]

They’re long gone, history.

I was told of a world of milk and honey with the ‘grown-ups’ back in the room.

More bolleaux. Starmer couldn't have been clearer: tough times are ahead, he doesn't have a magic wand, etc -- all stated prior to the election.
But you can provide some links to counter this, and to support your claim that there was 'a world of milk and honey' ahead. Go on, you know you want to.

 

[chip]

Didn't he also at one time say 'workers don't have savings'. That statement pretty much says that. This allows him to target anyone who does have savings & people who earn less than £100k will be in that bracket.

I'm sure that this means that MPs aren't "working people"

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

More bolleaux. Starmer couldn't have been clearer: tough times are ahead, he doesn't have a magic wand, etc -- all stated prior to the election.
But you can provide some links to counter this, and to support your claim that there was 'a world of milk and honey' ahead. Go on, you know you want to.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

They’re long gone, history.

I was told of a world of milk and honey with the ‘grown-ups’ back in the room.

You really are a plum.

 

[dsr-burnley]

The only way of doing that would be to increase tax paid on savings, remove the £1,000 threshold, or remove the tax-free ISA.

Pensions are savings too. Plenty to go at among the people who have saved for a pension, and of course retired people (as he clearly implied) are fair game for tax rises.

 

[Bodian]

Pensions are savings too. Plenty to go at among the people who have saved for a pension, and of course retired people (as he clearly implied) are fair game for tax rises.

You don't get interest added onto savings pots do you? (i'm not sure). Or do you mean people have saved in an interest-bearing account to help them when they have retired. In which case - they may well be paying some tax on their savings already?

 

[nevergoagain]

Serious Fraud Office probe £112m Unite union hotel

Unite spent £112m of its members’ money on the project in Birmingham, the BBC has been told.

www.bbc.co.uk

I presume all those who moaned about corrupt Tory donors will be screaming for Labour to sever ties and repay donations from Unite if they are found to have broken the law ?.