[Politics] The General Election Thread

[dazzer6666]

They've gone and arranged our Christmas office lash-up for election night................................not sure whether that's good news or bad. I guess can have a load of drink, then find a place showing it and stay up all night..........
I love election night, and think this one will be even more fascinating than usual - shocks all over the place perhaps (in many directions). Can see the polls being wildly out this time, and all the key players are one colossal gaffe away from potentially wild swings

 

[Bold Seagull]

I've not read the finer details on that, but from the bits I have seen, it certainly seems to be duplicitous, yes.

(Sorry for disappointing you and not trying to find an excuse)

Not disappointing at all - I know you are no friend of Boris. I'm just picking up on you chosing to refute one of [MENTION=13]CHAPPERS[/MENTION] twitter shared posts, which I can agree with you on, they can't know every detail (unless you're Diane Abbott who very much needs to know every fact, figure, and detail). I was just intrigued that given the post you picked up was part of an after speech Q&A, the nurses statement post was a key part of the so called 'manifesto' or more accurately, just the next budget summary, clearly aimed at tackling the impression the Conservatives don't care about the NHS. That would have been worked over in great painstaking detail as a headline grabber, and it is fundamentally duplicitous. Needs to be called out because it is so blatant.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I've not read the finer details on that, but from the bits I have seen, it certainly seems to be duplicitous, yes.

(Sorry for disappointing you and not trying to find an excuse)

I am with you on this. I think the point is that when someone is spaffing lies, you call it. When they are accused of spaffing lies when they are actually simply being a bit dim and hopeful owing to short attention span, not really caring and that, it is not helpful to attack the clown for being a liar.

He is a liar and will be a liar but he isn't always lying.

If you hate Boris (like I do) then it is counterproductive to inflate his every foible....it will only make those who like Boris think he's hard done by. And that won't do.

 

[beorhthelm]

They've gone and arranged our Christmas office lash-up for election night................................not sure whether that's good news or bad. I guess can have a load of drink, then find a place showing it and stay up all night..........
I love election night, and think this one will be even more fascinating than usual - shocks all over the place perhaps (in many directions). Can see the polls being wildly out this time, and all the key players are one colossal gaffe away from potentially wild swings

i wonder what effect will it have on voting? party people will have to vote on way to work, rather the convenient evening. im in this boat myself.

 

[Bozza]

Not disappointing at all - I know you are no friend of Boris. I'm just picking up on you chosing to refute one of [MENTION=13]CHAPPERS[/MENTION] twitter shared posts, which I can agree with you on, they can't know every detail (unless you're Diane Abbott who very much needs to know every fact, figure, and detail). I was just intrigued that given the post you picked up was part of an after speech Q&A, the nurses statement post was a key part of the so called 'manifesto' or more accurately, just the next budget summary, clearly aimed at tackling the impression the Conservatives don't care about the NHS. That would have been worked over in great painstaking detail as a headline grabber, and it is fundamentally duplicitous. Needs to be called out because it is so blatant.

I hadn't seen the post on the nursing figures. I keep telling myself that I'm not coming back to this thread, and then I get sucked in again!

Let's see how long I last this time...

 

[Bold Seagull]

I am with you on this. I think the point is that when someone is spaffing lies, you call it. When they are accused of spaffing lies when they are actually simply being a bit dim and hopeful owing to short attention span, not really caring and that, it is not helpful to attack the clown for being a liar.

He is a liar and will be a liar but he isn't always lying.

If you hate Boris (like I do) then it is counterproductive to inflate his every foible....it will only make those who like Boris think he's hard done by. And that won't do.

There was a lady from Yorkshire interviewed yesterday who said "I know he lies and can't be trusted, but I still like him".

I actually laughed for a second, then realised that this is reflective of the electorate as a whole. I don't think many care about being lied to.

 

[Bold Seagull]

I hadn't seen the post on the nursing figures. I keep telling myself that I'm not coming back to this thread, and then I get sucked in again!

Let's see how long I last this time...

Because you're interested in politics - because you care!

 

[Lever]

Because of the bile and intolerance of people who are incapable of at least allowing others to have an opinion which is different from their own.

To respond in such a trivial way to an election that will affect the lives of so many people is a bit disingenuous, don't you think? Have another go.......

 

[beorhthelm]

I actually laughed for a second, then realised that this is reflective of the electorate as a whole. I don't think many care about being lied to.

fatigue? tie in to the point above about when something is a lie or simply incorrect, then the perpetual use of hyperbolic terms. it starts to wash over people.

 

[stewart12]

. I don't think many care about being lied to.

especially when it's being done in a posh voice

 

[Guinness Boy]

They've gone and arranged our Christmas office lash-up for election night................................not sure whether that's good news or bad. I guess can have a load of drink, then find a place showing it and stay up all night..........
I love election night, and think this one will be even more fascinating than usual - shocks all over the place perhaps (in many directions). Can see the polls being wildly out this time, and all the key players are one colossal gaffe away from potentially wild swings

Ours was also in for the 12th...........in Buckinghamshire. With no hotel allowance.

Easiest no show I've ever had. "Sorry I have to work from home and vote". Thursday night will be spent in front ot the telly, perhaps with something cold, and I'll still be less tired and hungover than my colleagues in the morning!

 

[knocky1]

There was a lady from Yorkshire interviewed yesterday who said "I know he lies and can't be trusted, but I still like him".

I actually laughed for a second, then realised that this is reflective of the electorate as a whole. I don't think many care about being lied to.

Something makes me keep trying to read that as a limerick.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Something makes me keep trying to read that as a limerick.

There once was a lady from Leeds
Who loved to read fake Twitter feeds
I think it's all bullshit
She said, and she knew it
But Corbyn's supporters smoke weed

 

[BLOCK F]

To respond in such a trivial way to an election that will affect the lives of so many people is a bit disingenuous, don't you think? Have another go.......

That sounds a bit of a pompous statement from you, Lever...........even by NSC standards.

 

[Bold Seagull]

There once was a lady from Pontefract
Who liked Boris as much as her cat
She'd lap up his lies
His hair in his eyes
Not caring whether truthful or fact

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Cataclysmic result for Labour , they really cant see it coming oh well it's not like they've been warned ,Boris walking back into number 10
Time to get the country moving forward
Regards
DF

 

[Lever]

That sounds a bit of a pompous statement from you, Lever...........even by NSC standards.

Maybe.... but if you think that the result of the election will be something to gloat about (however it goes) then I am genuinely dismayed.
Are you a gloater?

 

[BLOCK F]

There once was a lady from Leeds
Who loved to read fake Twitter feeds
I think it's all bullshit
She said, and she knew it
But Corbyn's supporters smoke weed

Don't give up the day job, GB! and I can take it you have no aspirations towards 'Poet Laureating"

 

[Wardy's twin]

especially when it's being done in a posh voice

its unbelievable but true people think that Tories will be doing them some good.

 

[BLOCK F]

Maybe.... but if you think that the result of the election will be something to gloat about (however it goes) then I am genuinely dismayed.
Are you a gloater?

Not a gloater, but a realist.
I do hope, however, that Labour lose, Corbyn and McDonnell are consigned to the history books, the Labour Party come to their senses, and once again become a centre left party that appeals to the more moderate left leaning citizens of this country and so becomes electable.