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[Politics] The General Election Thread

How are you voting?

  • Conservative and Unionist Party

    Votes: 176 32.3%
  • Labour Party

    Votes: 146 26.8%
  • Liberal Democrat’s

    Votes: 139 25.5%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 44 8.1%
  • Independent Candidate

    Votes: 4 0.7%
  • Monster Raving Looney Party

    Votes: 7 1.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 29 5.3%

  • Total voters
    545
  • Poll closed .






JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
The government is still committed to raising the national living Wage all they have done is add a caveat that holds true for many spending commitments. - “The Chancellor has pledged that the national living Wage will increase, reaching two-thirds of median earnings within five years (projected to be around £10.50 an hour in 2024), provided economic conditions allow.”

Lots of interesting bills in the Queens speech, a few listed here ...

Withdrawal Agreement Bill
Central to the Queen’s Speech is the commitment to implement the Brexit deal struck with the EU in October.

Agriculture Bill
Replaces the EU Common Agricultural Policy with a post-Brexit system of subsidies that rewards farmers for promoting biodiversity and access to the countryside, rather than yield.

Fisheries Bill
Creates licensing powers for fishing rights after Britain leaves the EU fisheries policy. Foreign boats no longer have automatic access to UK waters. Legal commitments to ensure sustainable fisheries.

Immigration Bill
Introduces the government’s new Australian style points system that will apply to anyone wanting to enter the country from the end of next year. It will end free movement of people and change the rights of immigrants to access benefits.

Police Powers Bill
Gives police greater powers to criminalise travellers who set up unauthorised encampments and allows them to seize their property and vehicles.

Counter Terrorism Bill
Bring in tougher sentences for the most serious terrorist offenders with a 14-year minimum following the London Bridge attacks. It would also remove early release for prisoners who receive extended determinate sentences. Licencing supervision for terrorist offenders will also be strengthened.

Sentencing bill
Serious violent and sex offenders will face longer sentences, with the automatic release point rising from halfway through their jail term to two thirds. The bill increases the range of reasons for giving murderers “whole life” sentences, meaning they will never be eligible for parole, including child murder. Community orders will also be strengthened to ensure they deliver an “appropriate level of punishment”.

Foreign National Offenders Bill
Increases sentences for serious foreign criminals, including rapists and child abusers, who return to the UK in breach of deportation orders from a matter of weeks to years.

Prisoners (disclosure of information about victims) Bill
Murderers will be denied parole if they fail to disclose where they have buried their victims. Paedophiles will also be denied parole if they fail to disclose the identities of children they have abused.

Electoral Integrity Bill
New legal requirement for voters to produce photographic ID before casting their vote and limit number of relatives who can act as a proxy.

Boycott ban
Prevents councils, universities and other public bodies waging boycotts, divestment and sanctions campaigns against foreign countries, notably Israel.

NHS Funding Bill
Enshrining annual budget increases promised by Theresa May, which will reach £20.5 billion in real terms by 2023-24, or £34 billion in cash terms

NHS reorganisation
A commitment to “draft legislation” to remove elements of competition requirements from the NHS to make it easier for organisations to work together to join up care. There will also be a pledge to update the Mental Health Act intended to reduce the number of detentions made under the act.

Employment Bill
Obliges all firms to pass on the full value of tips, service charges and gratuities to staff without deduction. Extends redundancy protections to pregnant women and makes flexible working the “default” for all workers unless employers have good reason to refuse. Workers would have the right request a more predictable contract. Parents of sick babies will be allowed extended leave and unpaid carers will be entitled to week’s leave. There will also be a new single workers rights enforcement body.

Environment Bill
This legislation will commit the government to legally binding targets to reduce air pollution. It also includes further measures to tackle plastics waste, including charges for single use, building on the plastic bag charge, and improve water quality. Powers will also be brought forward to allow government to mandate the recall of vehicles which do not meet emissions standards.

Climate change
The government says it will bring forward a series of measures in the budget to ensure it can meet its target to make the UK carbon neutral by 2050.

Animal welfare
Increases the maximum sentence for animal cruelty from six months to five years. Consultations on improving welfare of live animal transport, a ban on keeping monkeys as pets and the import and export of hunting trophies.

Windrush Compensation Scheme Bill
Legal powers to pay out compensation for people who were denied services or jobs because they came from a Commonwealth country before 1973 and could not prove eligibility under the “hostile environment” policy designed to crack down on illegal immigration.

Building Safety Bill
Plans for new building safety regulations to prevent a repeat of the Grenfell Tower fire of 2017, which killed 72 people.

It will provide “clearer accountability” and impose “stronger duties” on those responsible for the safety of high-rise buildings. Residents will be given a “stronger voice” in the system, while enforcement and sanctions will be strengthened to “deter non-compliance”.

Fire Safety Bill
Another piece of post Grenfell legislation would give fire services powers to take enforcement action against buildings with dangerous cladding and fire doors.

Space, science and research
Doubling R&D spending and creating a national space council. Prioritising government investment in areas where the UK can gain a competitive advantage, such as clean energy, space, robotics and artificial intelligence.
 


The Clamp

Well-known member
Jan 11, 2016
26,411
West is BEST
The living wage is meaningless guff. So few companies pay it. Raise minimum wage to the same rate. Then I’ll be impressed.
 


hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
Helpful Moderator
Mar 16, 2005
62,842
Chandlers Ford
The living wage is meaningless guff. So few companies pay it. Raise minimum wage to the same rate. Then I’ll be impressed.

It is entirely irrelevant anyway. They have zero intention of implementing it. 'if economic conditions allow'...

As if.
 






The Clamp

Well-known member
Jan 11, 2016
26,411
West is BEST
It is entirely irrelevant anyway. They have zero intention of implementing it. 'if economic conditions allow'...

As if.

Exactly. All Boris seems to have done so far is declare war on the BBC, enshrine a law that prohibits parliament from opposing ANY of his bills and make it illegal to delay brexit.

And people are happy they voted for that pig.
 


CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,118
It is entirely irrelevant anyway. They have zero intention of implementing it. 'if economic conditions allow'...

As if.

Quite. Defending altering a manifesto commitment to ‘if economic conditions allow’ is the kind of thing to be expected of those that voted for self harm. The Tories knew that they could say whatever they liked knowing they could row back because they managed to squeeze the living shit out of people’s attention with their Brexit nonsense.


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Garry Nelson's teacher

Well-known member
May 11, 2015
5,258
Bloody Worthing!
What is it with Tory leaders? Back in the day John Major (who doesn't seem half so bad now) told us we were a nation of cycling spinsters, cricket and warm beer. Today the buffoon Boris announced that this is the beginning of a new Golden Age.

What is he expecting? The London gangs will lay down their knives.The industrial wastelands on the north will regenerate.
The corporate crooks will stop looking for a short-term profit and will instead reinvest for the long term. Universities - stripped of much of their talent and research funding by Brexit - will redouble their scholarship simply because we have a Tory government. The poor will take to doffing their caps as an Eton-educated toff walks past. Hardened criminals will develop a social conscience, hardly daring to lose their opportunities in Boris's brave new Britain by continuing their lives of crime. We will all order our drinks in a pub - and sing our football chants - through the medium of Latin.

I'm not sure what is worse - is he a cynical, lying scumbag. Or does he really believe this Golden Age garbage?

Can anyone help to flesh out his vision better than me and do it full justice?
 




JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
What is it with Tory leaders? Back in the day John Major (who doesn't seem half so bad now) told us we were a nation of cycling spinsters, cricket and warm beer. Today the buffoon Boris announced that this is the beginning of a new Golden Age.

What is he expecting? The London gangs will lay down their knives.The industrial wastelands on the north will regenerate.
The corporate crooks will stop looking for a short-term profit and will instead reinvest for the long term. Universities - stripped of much of their talent and research funding by Brexit - will redouble their scholarship simply because we have a Tory government. The poor will take to doffing their caps as an Eton-educated toff walks past. Hardened criminals will develop a social conscience, hardly daring to lose their opportunities in Boris's brave new Britain by continuing their lives of crime. We will all order our drinks in a pub - and sing our football chants - through the medium of Latin.

I'm not sure what is worse - is he a cynical, lying scumbag. Or does he really believe this Golden Age garbage?

Can anyone help to flesh out his vision better than me and do it full justice?

Major had a majority of 21, Boris has a majority of 80, he has the political breathing space to do what he wants, unlike Major.

I think radical change is coming to the government machine (c/o D Cummings) and to realigning the UK economy. He's just painting a vaguely upbeat future picture to counter the never-ending deluge of catastrophising, negativity from the ususl suspects who can't cope when electoral events don't go their way.
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,288
What is it with Tory leaders? Back in the day John Major (who doesn't seem half so bad now) told us we were a nation of cycling spinsters, cricket and warm beer. Today the buffoon Boris announced that this is the beginning of a new Golden Age.

What is he expecting? The London gangs will lay down their knives.The industrial wastelands on the north will regenerate.
The corporate crooks will stop looking for a short-term profit and will instead reinvest for the long term. Universities - stripped of much of their talent and research funding by Brexit - will redouble their scholarship simply because we have a Tory government. The poor will take to doffing their caps as an Eton-educated toff walks past. Hardened criminals will develop a social conscience, hardly daring to lose their opportunities in Boris's brave new Britain by continuing their lives of crime. We will all order our drinks in a pub - and sing our football chants - through the medium of Latin.

I'm not sure what is worse - is he a cynical, lying scumbag. Or does he really believe this Golden Age garbage?

Can anyone help to flesh out his vision better than me and do it full justice?

Remember when after a fight the government released the impact assessments of the cost of Brexit on the UK, we were told that any Brexit deal would leave us worse off than being in the current EU , no deal would leave us all badly worse off. So, where this "Golden Age " has sprung from is a mystery, either the government's assessments were lies or, Johnson is telling lies now. Pretty easy choice I think, can't imagine a whole team of experts in their field coming up with a comprehensive report all agreeing to lie ?

However, we have elected a liar so we should fully expect him to carry on this way.
 






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