[Politics] The General Election Thread

[theonlymikey]

Dropping to 28% in the current round of polls when the government has been a running joke that can't deliver Brexit or anything else should be a bit of a concern then. I wonder why the public aren't taking to them?

Around what they were in the polls at the 2017 at the same stage

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[Hampster Gull]

Agreed, nearly as bad as those remain protesters....

Quite funny because the most multi cultural city in the world voted leave. London. Not sure the Tory party can claim the same

 

[Bozza]

Around what they were in the polls at the 2017 at the same stage

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So you're saying that Labour can still finish second in a two-horse race against an utterly shithouse opponent that they should be trouncing? As happened in 2017?

It's not the loftiest of ambitions, is it?

 

[hans kraay fan club]

I’m sorry but how can you say they get “broad general support” then go onto say in the same sentence “people still don’t vote for them” ?

Maybe that’s the problem ffs.

In this case ‘that’ is the media.

The actual POLICIES presented to the public, are extremely well received. Unsurprisingly really, as they are mostly common sense.

It’s all in the wording of the question, and the heavily biased reporting of what the policies entail.

Q1. Do you approve of taking broadband supply under state ownership - to remove tax subsidies to fund private stakeholders, and provide broadband to all through tax funding.

Q2. Do you approve of MARXIST Corbyn, STEALING private enterprises, and GIVING AWAY broadband services to everyone?

 

[daveinplzen]

Quite funny because the most multi cultural city in the world voted leave. London. Not sure the Tory party can claim the same

eh? Not been following the thread so much lately, so im missing something here i think

 

[theonlymikey]

So you're saying that Labour can still finish second in a two-horse race against an utterly shithouse opponent that they should be trouncing? As happened in 2017?

It's not the loftiest of ambitions, is it?

They only need to stop Tories getting 315 seats. Be been saying since the election is called, that anything other than a Tory Majority makes Jez PM.

If the Tories lose Scottish seats and Labour maintain their vote share in England it's job done.

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[Bozza]

If the Tories lose Scottish seats and Labour maintain their vote share in England it's job done.

There are absolutely no indicators anywhere at all that suggest they will though.

I won't post Betfair odds for the fear of upsetting someone-or-other, but if you truly believe what you are saying is at all likely, then you should be lumping on at very generous odds.

 

[Bakero]

In this case ‘that’ is the media.

The actual POLICIES presented to the public, are extremely well received. Unsurprisingly really, as they are mostly common sense.

It’s all in the wording of the question, and the heavily biased reporting of what the policies entail.

Q1. Do you approve of taking broadband supply under state ownership - to remove tax subsidies to fund private stakeholders, and provide broadband to all through tax funding.

Q2. Do you approve of MARXIST Corbyn, STEALING private enterprises, and GIVING AWAY broadband services to everyone?

Amusingly, the story about Corbyn's madcap plan is linked in the related articles bit of the piece on Boris's bold scheme https://www.express.co.uk/news/poli...neral-election-minimum-wage-raise-sajid-javid

 

[theonlymikey]

There are absolutely no indicators anywhere at all that suggest they will though.

I won't post Betfair odds for the fear of upsetting someone-or-other, but if you truly believe what you are saying is at all likely, then you should be lumping on at very generous odds.

I think it's 50 50. Their policies hold up. We won't know until exit polls come out.

And he's the same IRA/Marxist he was back then now.

Tuesday will be telling. So long as the debate leader doesn't hold back, it should boost Corbyn.

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[KZNSeagull]

In this case ‘that’ is the media.

The actual POLICIES presented to the public, are extremely well received. Unsurprisingly really, as they are mostly common sense.

It’s all in the wording of the question, and the heavily biased reporting of what the policies entail.

Q1. Do you approve of taking broadband supply under state ownership - to remove tax subsidies to fund private stakeholders, and provide broadband to all through tax funding.

Q2. Do you approve of MARXIST Corbyn, STEALING private enterprises, and GIVING AWAY broadband services to everyone?

Absolutely. The problem is not necessarily the policies (not that I agree with the broadband one). It is the fact that they are being presented by Corbyn and McDonnell. Bin them and Labour would walk this election.

 

[theonlymikey]

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Amusingly, the story about Corbyn's madcap plan is linked in the related articles bit of the piece on Boris's bold scheme https://www.express.co.uk/news/poli...neral-election-minimum-wage-raise-sajid-javid

If it was so bad it'd be funny

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[Baldseagull]

I’m sorry but how can you say they get “broad general support” then go onto say in the same sentence “people still don’t vote for them” ?

Maybe that’s the problem ffs.

The difference between policies and personalities, the policies are popular, the personalities are not, or the trust that they will be delivered is not.

 

[Bakero]

If it was so bad it'd be funny

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Shit like this is why media studies should be part of the core curriculum.

 

[daveinplzen]

local polling intentions in this constituency were predicting the Conservative Party would hold on to this council.

 

[Stat Brother]

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Begging the question:-

Why aren't Labour & Lib Dems carving up the marginal seats?

 

[WATFORD zero]

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Begging the question:-

Why aren't Labour & Lib Dems carving up the marginal seats?

Very good summation

 

[Hampster Gull]

eh? Not been following the thread so much lately, so im missing something here i think

Doh, I meant remain. I’m off for a kip

 

[Bodian]

Using the overall poll tracker for balance would help for a start. Labour closed the gap on average across all intention polls.

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But the last lot? Changes from their last one:

Delatpoll: +12 now +15
YouGov: +14 now +17
Opinium: +12 now +16
BMG: +8 now +8
ComRes: +10 now +8
Panelbase: +10 now +13

 

[Lower West Stander]

In this case ‘that’ is the media.

The actual POLICIES presented to the public, are extremely well received. Unsurprisingly really, as they are mostly common sense.

It’s all in the wording of the question, and the heavily biased reporting of what the policies entail.

Q1. Do you approve of taking broadband supply under state ownership - to remove tax subsidies to fund private stakeholders, and provide broadband to all through tax funding.

Q2. Do you approve of MARXIST Corbyn, STEALING private enterprises, and GIVING AWAY broadband services to everyone?

For goodness sake, stop blaming the press.

What you are talking about is a massive over simplification. Even if the basic principle of broadband for all through tax was regarded as a good thing, most people are intelligent enough to see that it is a completely inattainable goal. That is why Labour are so far behind in the polls.

But then again, you thought a Corbynista councillor sending his daughter to Roedean wasn’t hypocritical.....


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[highflyer]

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Begging the question:-

Why aren't Labour & Lib Dems carving up the marginal seats?

I would suspect a question of timing. Polls may well move quite a bit yet, especially as the tactical voting intentions starts to show more, which will tell both sides how much they have to give up. In terms of how much standing down they do, and where, but also in terms of what they are in a position to demand in terms of giving support to a post election government. Nobody wants to give more than they need to, and that won't be clear for another couple of weeks I'd suggest. So while some talking will undoubtedly be happening, nobody is going to start giving ground yet.

Farage meanwhile could see the game was up from the early polls and his move was essentially face saving, bearing mind that the Brexit party is just one big vanity project for the odious little sh*t.