[Politics] The 2024 US Election - *MATCH DAY*

[BadFish]

Awesome…but that’s what the elitist leftists say every election year. Unfortunately, they never seem to leave.

That's your take away from that video??

I guess I should no longer be surprised, after all this is the stuff required to support Trump,

 

[lasvegan]

That's your take away from that video??

I guess I should no longer be surprised, after all this is the stuff required to support Trump,

I didn’t watch it.

 

[Happy Exile]

There’s some stuff around the purging of electoral rolls that’s a worry for it being a fair election. In the last almost 50 years combined there have been fewer than 1500 cases of electoral fraud across the whole of the US yet Texas has just purged a million people from their electoral rolls to prevent fraud, some of whom were deceased, but the others all have to re-register if they want to vote. They say the purge happens monthly but that’s a lot of people to remove just now in a state with a population half that of the UK.

Oklahoma has just removed a third of potential voters with just over 4 weeks to go too…you don’t necessarily know if you’ve been purged either. There are currently around 40 cases in state courts where this is happening challenging the legality or other aspects of it but likely too late to make a difference. That’s a lot of votes that won’t get cast now, and no surprise that affects demographics that skew towards Democrats more…

 

[Peteinblack]

Awesome…but that’s what the elitist leftists say every election year. Unfortunately, they never seem to leave.

We have a similar problem here in Britain with mega-rich Right-wing actors, comedians (such as Jim Davidson - 'comedian' is loosely defined here) and other Tory celebrities, who often threaten to emigrate if a Labour government is elected.

I'm always willing to go to the airport and wave them off, and say good riddance you arrogant, entitled, self-important ****s, but sadly, they rarely carry out their threats.

 

[BadFish]

I didn’t watch it.

That's the way

 

[Machiavelli]

Awesome…but that’s what the elitist leftists say every election year. Unfortunately, they never seem to leave.

 

[Triggaaar]

Putin's puppet Trump on Ukraine:

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Trump argued Ukraine should have made concessions to Russian President Vladimir Putin in the months before Russia’s February 2022 attack, declaring that even “the worst deal would’ve been better than what we have now”.

Trump is so weak.

 

[Triggaaar]

Awesome…but that’s what the elitist leftists say every election year. Unfortunately, they never seem to leave.

So it's totally lost on you that the elites were Trump supporters who now want nothing to do with him

 

[A1X]

What I think this thread, and the internet in general, proves is that Americans have absolutely no idea what being left wing actually means. The number of actual “leftists” in the US political sphere is about 1-2% absolute tops.

As a clue, none of Harris, Biden, Obama or, indeed, any US President in history is remotely “leftist”. Even someone many Americans regard as being some sort of tooth-and-nail communist in Bernie Sanders is only marginally to the left of Gordon Brown.

 

[Albion my Albion]

I bet there aren’t many Mexicans and Latinos on Trump’s golf course eh?

Just the ones who work for the maintenance crews that keep the golf course properly groomed.

 

[Bodian]

There’s some stuff around the purging of electoral rolls that’s a worry for it being a fair election. In the last almost 50 years combined there have been fewer than 1500 cases of electoral fraud across the whole of the US yet Texas has just purged a million people from their electoral rolls to prevent fraud, some of whom were deceased, but the others all have to re-register if they want to vote. They say the purge happens monthly but that’s a lot of people to remove just now in a state with a population half that of the UK.

Oklahoma has just removed a third of potential voters with just over 4 weeks to go too…you don’t necessarily know if you’ve been purged either. There are currently around 40 cases in state courts where this is happening challenging the legality or other aspects of it but likely too late to make a difference. That’s a lot of votes that won’t get cast now, and no surprise that affects demographics that skew towards Democrats more…

I can understand removing the deceased and felons etc - but they also seem to remove people simply because they 'haven't voted for a while'. Surely that's wrong?

 

[US Seagull]

So it's totally lost on you that the elites were Trump supporters who now want nothing to do with him

More to the point, Michael Cohen isn't claiming his going to leave based on some vague "he's gonna ruin the county" fear. He's saying he'll leave, and change he's name, based on the fear that Trump, with his absolute presidential immunity, will take revenge on him. Imprisonment, or worse.

Not entirely unjustified with Trump's repeated threats to get even with those he feels have betrayed him.

 

[Albion my Albion]

but they also seem to remove people simply because they 'haven't voted for a while'. Surely that's wrong?

The thought is that a person could change residences and not tell the previous county that he has moved and vote in 2 different counties in the same election.

 

[schmunk]

The thought is that a person could change residences and not tell the previous county that he has moved and vote in 2 different counties in the same election.

A relatively reasonable, err..., reason I suppose, but surely that's more likely with people who HAVE voted recently...?

 

[drew]

I didn’t watch it.

There's none so blind as those that will not see.

 

[US Seagull]

The thought is that a person could change residences and not tell the previous county that he has moved and vote in 2 different counties in the same election.

It's more about states than counties. You can't really registered in two counties in the same state because you are registering with the same state board of elections.

But you can end up registered in more than one state. Which isn't illegal. Voting in more than one state is.

There is an organization called ERIC,
Electronic Registration Information Center, that is supposed to help coordinate sharing of state voter rolls, but recently a number of GOP led states withdrew from the organization because, quite transparently, they don't actually care about that. They care about kicking Democrats off the rolls.

 

[beorhthelm]

What I think this thread, and the internet in general, proves is that Americans have absolutely no idea what being left wing actually means. The number of actual “leftists” in the US political sphere is about 1-2% absolute tops.

As a clue, none of Harris, Biden, Obama or, indeed, any US President in history is remotely “leftist”. Even someone many Americans regard as being some sort of tooth-and-nail communist in Bernie Sanders is only marginally to the left of Gordon Brown.

that's looking along the economic axis. quite large area of social policy, abortion, gun control, immigration, healthcare, climate, where there divides are split along Republican/Democrat, left/right lines. they define left and liberal differently.

 

[Happy Exile]

I can understand removing the deceased and felons etc - but they also seem to remove people simply because they 'haven't voted for a while'. Surely that's wrong?

Yep. And you have to re-register to vote but might not find out until it’s too late

 

[Zeberdi]

A minor story in the news today:

Trump says “Iran is trying to kill me to destabilise the US.”

Further to the above - Trump now asking Biden to “blow Iran to smithereens”


Donald Trump has called on Joe Biden to issue a stern warning to Iran over reported threats against his life.

"If I were the president, I would inform the threatening country, in this case Iran, that if you do anything to harm this person, we are going to blow your largest cities and the country itself to smithereens,"

Surely this is proof enough that Trump’s belligerent rhetoric is a significant threat to worsening global instability? - while Israel led by Trump backed-Netanyahu is threatening to invade Lebanon (which will prompt for certain, direct retaliation from Iran), Trump is more incensed that he might be unpopular with any world leader, including Iran.

It undermines his whole blustering narcissistic egocentrism - that he could end the war in Ukraine and Iran ‘tomorrow’ or ‘they never would have this war if I was President’ (lies)


On Ukraine, his attitude is no less concerning.

“Trump says Ukraine is 'dead' and 'demolished'​

Donald Trump has said people in Ukraine are "dead" and described the country as "demolished" during a campaign event in North Carolina.

The former president argued that Ukraine should have made concessions to Russian President Vladimir Putin in the months before the war started. “

While everyone else is working hard to support Ukraine, Trump is more concerned about his personal popularity and attacking Zelenskyy :

“The president of Ukraine is in our country and he's making little, nasty aspersions towards your favourite president, me," he said, according to our US partner site NBC News. “

The man is utterly despicable and some might even argue, deliberately provoking assassination attempts just so he can play the victim card and win votes.

“Around the world, our enemies are desperate to prevent Donald Trump from returning to the White House because they know I will make America great again. They don't want that," he said.”

Authorities have made no such connection between the two assassination attempts and Iran.

Trump latest: Trump reveals details of meeting with Biden - as Mar-a-Lago insiders hit out at Musk

Donald Trump has met Joe Biden at the White House to discuss the transition of power. NBC News projects that the Republican Party will win the House of Representatives, meaning it will now have control of all of Congress, including the Senate - as well as the presidency.

news.sky.com

 

[Zeberdi]

What I think this thread, and the internet in general, proves is that Americans have absolutely no idea what being left wing actually means. The number of actual “leftists” in the US political sphere is about 1-2% absolute tops.

As a clue, none of Harris, Biden, Obama or, indeed, any US President in history is remotely “leftist”. Even someone many Americans regard as being some sort of tooth-and-nail communist in Bernie Sanders is only marginally to the left of Gordon Brown.

Actually some of Harris’ campaign policies are being lifted straight out of the Starmer playbook but I would not call Starmer ‘leftist’ overall but centrist and on some policies very much to the soft right of centre.