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[Politics] The 2024 US Election - *MATCH DAY*

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 167 41.1%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 217 53.4%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 19 4.7%

  • Total voters
    406
  • This poll will close: .


pb21

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marlowe

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"It takes two to tango"

f*** off tango man.
Trump expects Ukraine to concede to the invasion of its country by Russia and is essentially victim blaming them for not doing so.

But when it comes to his perceived invasion of the US by immigrants he expresses such moral outrage and is prepared to do anything in his powers by whatever means to stop that so called "invasion".

The "values" and "principles" he extols and takes such pride in are so warped, inconsistent and ego centric.

Zelensky should have damned Trump with faint praise and told him that he admires Trump's own resolve and is upholding the very values that Trump himself holds so dear by protecting Ukraine's borders from their invader.

Trump's narcissism and susceptibility to flattery would have prevented him from recognising that Zelensky was publicly calling him out for being a hypocrital ****.
 




Triggaaar

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Someone should edit Trump's claims of the biggest crowds with this:
 




Zeberdi

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And they say there are no right-wing comedians anymore.
It says more about Tucker Carson (a supposedly serious MSM right wing anchor) entertaining conspiracy theorists, racist, and clearly spiritually and mentally conflicted people like Rosanne Barr.

It also suits the far right MAGA Trumpists (especially the Christian and Jewish fundamentalists) to promote the idea of child and animal abuse sweeping through America in the form of ”Satanic Cults” - to demonise those that do not support Trump and revive the Satanic Panic that gripped America in the ‘80s with stories of Hilary’s Pizza Paedo ring, eating dogs and cats in Springfield, cannibalism of children etc

It’s all part of the QAnon conspiracy theory and it’s prolific:

“The QAnon conspiracy theory is vast, complicated and ever changing, and its adherents are constantly folding new events and personalities into its master narrative. But the gist of it is that national Democrats, aided by Hollywood and a group of “global elites”, are running a massive ring devoted to the abduction, trafficking, torture, sexual abuse and cannibalization of children, all with the purpose of fulfilling the rituals of their Satanic faith.”

Don’t dismiss Rosanne Barr as an isolated fringe nutter. She is very much an overt part of the widespread narrative being stealthily promoted by Trump supporters against those who are “destroying America” and “killing our children”.

The counterpart to the QAnon theory is that Trump is the only one that can save America from the Democrats.

 




raymondo

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It says more about Tucker Carson (a supposedly serious MSM right wing anchor) entertaining conspiracy theorists, racist, and clearly spiritually and mentally conflicted people like Rosanne Barr.

It also suits the far right MAGA Trumpists (especially the Christian and Jewish fundamentalists) to promote the idea of child and animal abuse sweeping through America in the form of ”Satanic Cults” - to demonise those that do not support Trump and revive the Satanic Panic that gripped America in the ‘80s with stories of Hilary’s Pizza Paedo ring, eating dogs and cats in Springfield, cannibalism of children etc

It’s all part of the QAnon conspiracy theory and it’s prolific:

“The QAnon conspiracy theory is vast, complicated and ever changing, and its adherents are constantly folding new events and personalities into its master narrative. But the gist of it is that national Democrats, aided by Hollywood and a group of “global elites”, are running a massive ring devoted to the abduction, trafficking, torture, sexual abuse and cannibalization of children, all with the purpose of fulfilling the rituals of their Satanic faith.”

Don’t dismiss Rosanne Barr as an isolated fringe nutter. She is very much an overt part of the widespread narrative being stealthily promoted by Trump supporters against those who are “destroying America” and “killing our children”.

The counterpart to the QAnon theory is that Trump is the only one that can save America from the Democrats.

A good Guardian article...and it's 4 years old
 


Albion my Albion

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It also suits the far right MAGA Trumpists (especially the Christian and Jewish fundamentalists) to promote the idea of child and animal abuse sweeping through America in the form of ”Satanic Cults” - to demonise those that do not support Trump and revive the Satanic Panic that gripped America in the ‘80s with stories of Hilary’s Pizza Paedo ring, eating dogs and cats in Springfield, cannibalism of children etc

These kind of people were in my family in southern Indiana in the form of my ex-wife's brother. He tried to raise his mother from the dead with an invocation while she was in the casket and he was crying over her body.

Here are some quotes from his Facebook page:

"Those people at the capitol were Antifa." (January 6th)

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raymondo

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Trump expects Ukraine to concede to the invasion of its country by Russia and is essentially victim blaming them for not doing so.

But when it comes to his perceived invasion of the US by immigrants he expresses such moral outrage and is prepared to do anything in his powers by whatever means to stop that so called "invasion".

The "values" and "principles" he extols and takes such pride in are so warped, inconsistent and ego centric.

Zelensky should have damned Trump with faint praise and told him that he admires Trump's own resolve and is upholding the very values that Trump himself holds so dear by protecting Ukraine's borders from their invader.

Trump's narcissism and susceptibility to flattery would have prevented him from recognising that Zelensky was publicly calling him out for being a hypocrital ****.
Excellent idea 👍🏼 (second to last para).
 




Zeberdi

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A good Guardian article...and it's 4 years old

It doesn’t matter how old the article is, it’s completely relevant as background to the points I am making about Rosanne Barr being a part of the QAanon conspiracy theory.. QAanon may have started over 4 years ago (2017 in fact) but it is still going strong and has been a key element of Trump’s online campaign strategy

If you prefer, this is more recent




(Not sure why my post got an angry reaction tbh)
 


raymondo

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It doesn’t matter how old the article is, it’s completely relevant as background to the points I am making about Rosanne Barr being a part of the QAanon conspiracy theory.. QAanon may have started over 4 years ago (2017 in fact) but it is still going strong and has been a key element of Trump’s online campaign strategy

If you prefer, this is more recent




(Not sure why my post got an angry reaction tbh)
You misunderstood my post (...completely!) ... I'll take the blame for not being 100% clear...

The article was excellent, and I was sincerely amazed that it was written 4 years ago - it could have been written today. I was marvelling (in a sad way) that QAnon has been such a big thing, for such a long time, but is rarely commented on in mainstream UK media (or at least I don't see its visibility). I wonder how many hundred's of '000s of stupid Americans are influenced by this stuff.
 






Zeberdi

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You misunderstood my post (...completely!) ... I'll take the blame for not being 100% clear...

The article was excellent, and I was sincerely amazed that it was written 4 years ago - it could have been written today. I was marvelling (in a sad way) that QAnon has been such a big thing, for such a long time, but is rarely commented on in mainstream UK media (or at least I don't see its visibility). I wonder how many hundred's of '000s of stupid Americans are influenced by this stuff.
Sorry - I did think in retrospect that it would have been an unusual response for you 🤗

And yes, it seems a poorly understood phenomenon and really slipping under the radar of most MSM political commentators (certainly in the UK and to an extent in the left wing media in the States).

I guess, the thing isn’t to be too shocked when screwed up deluded individuals like Rosanne Barr start spouting this stuff on the biggest right wing News Station in America.

I would say Rosanne is the tip of a very large iceberg, maybe as much as 25% believe in some aspect of QAnon theories:


Marjorie Taylor Greene, Rep. House Representative for Georgia is known for her QAnon-like beleifs - she was the one that forced a vote to get rid of the House Speaker for supporting an aid budget for Ukraine - she’s a real piece of work
 


raymondo

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Sorry - I did think in retrospect that it would have been an unusual response for you 🤗

And yes, it seems a poorly understood phenomenon and really slipping under the radar of most MSM political commentators (certainly in the UK and to an extent in the left wing media in the States).

I guess, the thing isn’t to be too shocked when screwed up deluded individuals like Rosanne Barr start spouting this stuff on the biggest right wing News Station in America.

I would say Rosanne is the tip of a very large iceberg, maybe as much as 25% believe in some aspect of QAnon theories:


Marjorie Taylor Greene, Rep. House Representative for Georgia is known for her QAnon-like beleifs - she was the one that forced a vote to get rid of the House Speaker for supporting an aid budget for Ukraine - she’s a real piece of work
It's scary to me that a democratic country has such undercurrents.
 


seagullsovergrimsby

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How did Trump get hold of those Chinese knock off watches from Del Boy ?
 


Zeberdi

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It's scary to me that a democratic country has such undercurrents.
Yep

Not sure why my analysis of that attracted a lot of angry 😡 reactions disliking my post and sad faces though - perhaps people disagree with my assessment (or misunderstood it?).

I should have made it clearer that I wasn’t agreeing with Rosanne Barr or the QAnons!
 






marlowe

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Dec 13, 2015
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Yep

Not sure why my analysis of that attracted a lot of angry 😡 reactions disliking my post and sad faces though - perhaps people disagree with my assessment (or misunderstood it?).

I should have made it clearer that I wasn’t agreeing with Rosanne Barr or the QAnons!
I think you're misinterpreting the angry reactions. They weren't disliking your post they were sharing your anger towards the subject matter of your post, hence the angry emoji.
 


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