[Politics] The 2024 US Election - *MATCH DAY*

[Pevenseagull]

It always amuses me when people cite economic issues as a reason to vote for Trump. The only man in history to have gone bankrupt while owning a casino.

Very much THIS.

 

[Pevenseagull]

He's absolutely going to blitz this and I cannot for the life of me work out why.

It's f***ing INSANE that people would look at that utter bufo........



Hang on



Boris Johnson




Mrs Brown's Boys ... Best sitcom



Jesus wept.




We're doomed.

 

[Pevenseagull]

Exchange betting for next POTAS:

Convicted sex offending old man utter nutter 2.36
Old man who shouldn't be trusted to choose his favourite ice cream flavour 2.9
Right wing lady who isn't a convicted sex offender but probably still a nutter 11.5

 

[Insel affe]

Exchange betting for next POTAS:

Convicted sex offending old man utter nutter 2.36
Old man who shouldn't be trusted to choose his favourite ice cream flavour 2.9
Right wing lady who isn't a convicted sex offender but probably still a nutter 11.5

Trump is going to win isn’t he…..

Armageddon is on its way, I feel so depressed about the whole world situations going on at the moment, we have a perfect storm.

switch the feckin lights off.

 

[Pevenseagull]

Trump is going to win isn’t he…..

Armageddon is on its way, I feel so depressed about the whole world situations going on at the moment, we have a perfect storm.

switch the feckin lights off.

If I lived in the USA I would seriously consider giving up on whatever I was doing, taking industrial quantities of hallucinogenic drugs and f***ing off to listen to early 80s Rush albums in a tent somewhere.

 

[Insel affe]

If I lived in the USA I would seriously consider giving up on whatever I was doing, taking industrial quantities of hallucinogenic drugs and f***ing off to listen to early 80s Rush albums in a tent somewhere.

I have news for you, that may not be good company, there are actually a lot of mid western folk like that and they voted and will again for Trump.

 

[Pevenseagull]

I have news for you, that may not be good company, there are actually a lot of mid western folk like that and they voted and will again for Trump.

Bugger.

CCR then


.. Actually.maybe not.



Husker Du?

 

[marlowe]

Exchange betting for next POTAS:

Convicted sex offending old man utter nutter 2.36
Old man who shouldn't be trusted to choose his favourite ice cream flavour 2.9
Right wing lady who isn't a convicted sex offender but probably still a nutter 11.5

Technically speaking Trump wasn't "convicted" of a sexual offence, he was only "found liable' as it was a civil case not a criminal one, but i get your point.

But its all semantics anyway because even if it was a criminal conviction it wouldnt dent the loyalty of his morally twisted and deluded following.

As Trump himself proudly proclaimed on the campaign trail for the Republican primary in 2016, he could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot someone and he wouldnt lose any voters.

Although his words may have been said in jest there was a worrying undercurrent of truth in them which he clearly recognised and was proud of......

I'm even surprised he's not paraphrasing himself for his latest campaign trail by proudly declaring that he could rape someone and not lose any voters. This time it wouldn't be said as a joke because it would be demonstrably true....

 

[Thunder Bolt]

My posts were replying to TB, and you're saying a socialist society can have billionaire business owners, but it can't, because they can't own the businesses that make them billionaires, as those businesses need to be owned by the community. We already have a system where billionaire business owners pay tax on their profits - not enough tax IMO, but if they were taxed a bit more, we wouldn't suddenly be a socialist society.


Yes, assets such as your house can be owned by a private individual, but you should have made the money through your labour, not by owning businesses that make money from other people's labour. So while it might be ok to own a football club, no one would have the money required to own one like ours.

I don’t understand what you’re getting at, so I’ll leave it. A boss of a company also works so the company succeeds.

 

[beorhthelm]

Trump winning by larger margin than expected and polls for rest all wrong.

interesting aside, Musk reckoned Vivek Ramaswamy was going to be 2nd with ~20% based on twitter data. got that very wrong.

 

[Lever]

An old school friend of mine and his American wife (who have been living in Connecticut for the past 30 years) are preparing for the worst scenario (Trump becoming POTUS); they are buying a place in Dorset and will certainly leave the USA if it happens. I too am extremely worried about the Election and don't entirely trust their electorate to do the sane thing.....

 

[Lever]

Trump is going to win isn’t he…..

Armageddon is on its way, I feel so depressed about the whole world situations going on at the moment, we have a perfect storm.

switch the feckin lights off.

God forbid.....

 

[nicko31]

Trump winning by larger margin than expected and polls for rest all wrong.

interesting aside, Musk reckoned Vivek Ramaswamy was going to be 2nd with ~20% based on twitter data. got that very wrong.

Interesting Ron De Sanctimonious not as dead as some thought

 

[Triggaaar]

I don’t understand what you’re getting at

It's pretty simple. Lasvegan asked what 'us socialists' thought of mega rich Bloom. You replied that Socialism isn’t communism and doesn't stop people being rich like Tony. I pointed out that Bloom couldn't profit as he does in a socialist society and you questioned my definition as you thought that was communism, but it isn't.

A boss of a company also works so the company succeeds.

Yes and the boss could get paid a bit more, but they wouldn't get the profits to themselves and they wouldn't earn enough to make them a billionaire.

 

[Triggaaar]

This does not exclude the possibility of an individual/s owning a business worth over a billion pounds, while sharing the profits with the rest of society.

a) Socialism does exclude individuals owning businesses worth that much.
b) But if Bloom were able to own it and had to share all the profits with the rest of society, then he wouldn't have been able to build the club as he has.

 

[A1X]

Imagine telling Ronald Reagan that the Republican Party are likely to elect as their candidate a man who has the backing of Moscow and wants to stop the US intervening to assist a country invaded by Russian forces

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Trump is going to win isn’t he…..

Armageddon is on its way, I feel so depressed about the whole world situations going on at the moment, we have a perfect storm.

switch the feckin lights off.

It does seem to have a grim inevitability about it. And if he doesn't win it'll be a guaranteed re-run of his playbook in 2020: the election was stolen etc

 

[Zeberdi]

An old school friend of mine and his American wife (who have been living in Connecticut for the past 30 years) are preparing for the worst scenario (Trump becoming POTUS); they are buying a place in Dorset and will certainly leave the USA if it happens. I too am extremely worried about the Election and don't entirely trust their electorate to do the sane thing.....

He won’t be the only one. My cousin in anticipation that Trump might win has already bought a house in UK and just have had their duel citizenship through to for his family to move to UK permanently if Trump wins. My Aunty says she will probably follow suit. None of my family in the States ( and that’s a lot of them) want to stay if he wins.

i did say to them, it wont be better here if Trump wins, his negative impact will be felt globally, especially economically and in terms of security- NATO will be undermined, funding will likely be cut to Ukraine, he’ll probably pull out of the Climate Change agreements, he will seek to cut off economic ties with China ( as De Santis also promised) - the list goes on. He is the very last thing imo our unstable world needs right now

 

[raymondo]

He won’t be the only one. My cousin in anticipation that Trump might win has already bought a house in UK and just have had their duel citizenship through to for his family to move to UK permanently if Trump wins. My Aunty says she will probably follow suit. None of my family in the States ( and that’s a lot of them) want to stay if he wins.

i did say to them, it wont be better here if Trump wins, his negative impact will be felt globally, especially economically and in terms of security- NATO will be undermined, funding will likely be cut to Ukraine, he’ll probably pull out of the Climate Change agreements, he will seek to cut off economic ties with China ( as De Santis also promised) - the list goes on. He is the very last thing imo our unstable world needs right now

All of your list looks right to me I'm sad to say

 

[Insel affe]

Someone has mentioned that if Trump wins apart from his foreign policy and his liking for Putin aside, will his victory send the economic west into a tail spin ?

I really do think, he is the Anti Christ, and will set in motion the possibility of him and his family to become dictators.

How can the Americans be so feckin stupid, my father in law a decent man, who ran a successful business and quite rational, thinks the vote was stolen from Trump, we do not talk to him about politics as it just ends in stale mate, god fearing Americans are scary.