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Sweden’s Coronovirus strategy will soon be the worlds
- Thread starter Albion Dan
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Man behind the Swedish plan admits it was a shit idea!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52903717
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52903717
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
... but not entirely
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....alth-chief-coronavirus-no-lockdown-sweden?amp
Norwegian official said this
Norwegian official said this
Albion Dan
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He's saying they failed to protect care homes adequately not that it was a shit idea. And hey, we locked down, we also still failed to protect care homes so we have the economic disaster AND the elderly deaths. I'd much rather be Sweden than where we are and still suspect they will net out much better than most.
Weststander
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But he makes it clear more than once that it was the right strategy. With hindsight he’d make one or two adjustments.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Although wasn’t sure what they were...I thought the clue was in the care homes
Weststander
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A pattern throughout most of Europe of many care homes being the initially overlooked and later disasters.
Second time around, hopefully no nation will get that wrong again.
darkwolf666
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No, cos there won’t be so many of the ol’ buggers about...!
Albion Dan
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Oops. This doesn't help the main stream narrative at all.....
https://www.newsweek.com/sweden-cov...rta31a4EsRSqR3ZHOCYSSfDFHijwjX1fpfzOv0kZfcNjM
https://www.newsweek.com/sweden-cov...rta31a4EsRSqR3ZHOCYSSfDFHijwjX1fpfzOv0kZfcNjM
Machiavelli
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Is a main stream a river?
Are they are the 95k deaths predicted yet?
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
Why is Sweden's death toll so much higher than the other Scandinavian countries. Very convenient to compare against the worst countries, why not look wider. Oh, it doesn't fit the narrative at all.
darkwolf666
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Trouble is the way Sweden has been perceived has been a bit of a rollercoaster ride.
They were seen as the model for all to follow, then it was actually they are doing pretty shit, now it’s they are the model to follow again - let’s see where we are in another month or so before we follow suit...
Oh and I think the expression is confirmation bias...
When were they seen as the model to follow by the majority of the media?
darkwolf666
Well-known member
Post #1 of this very thread!!!
No, not the majority of the media clearly, but to be fair no-one agrees on anything with regards Covid.
Weststander
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We don’t need to wait.
The following all have not dissimilar socio economic systems, population patterns and they lack global transport hubs (such as NYC, London, Madrid, Paris, Amsterdam), so have similar pre-pandemic environments. Deaths per million:
Sweden 570
Denmark 106
Finland 60
Norway 47
Sweden with a relatively low population, saw their non/semi lockdown kill many thousands of older folk. Their lockdown neighbours fared very well. Perhaps the nation”s psyche philosophically brushes that aside as a price worth paying, for young people to carry on enjoying life and for businesses to prosper?
The current stats for the three neighbours show a minuscule rise in CV19 deaths.
Lockdown works.
Lockdown works for now, but the people who were going die this year will still die this year so best to judge at the end of the year. What will be interesting is next years deaths of cancer, suicidal deaths and depression in the population.
We might have delayed some deaths by months but bought deaths forward by years in some ?
We might have delayed some deaths by months but bought deaths forward by years in some ?
Weststander
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Your first statement is very controversial, but true to an extent. The problem is that it’s politically unacceptable to have that as policy (for a few days the UK Government went down the Swedish route of herd immunity, but all hell broke loose in the media, parts of the science world and from political opponents).
Plus those older deaths, are real people. Throughout the last 5 months I’ve lost count of the number of times that a bitterly angry relative comes on the radio, upset that their 85 year old mum or dad died of CV19 at a care home.
The Swede in charge admitted there was mistakes and that wasn’t he care homes - this was back in May
About 90% of the 3,700 people who have died from coronavirus in Sweden were over 70, and half were living in care homes, according to a study from Sweden’s National Board of Health and Welfare at the end of April.
“We failed to protect our elderly. That’s really serious, and a failure for society as a whole,” health minister Lena Hallengren told Swedish Television.
The situation in the care homes has been a disgrace here as well