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Commander

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Adriodinho said:
f*** off! I was talking to Seagullible about Theo Wallcott, and Theo Wallcott ain't no Wayne Rooney. He is turning out another Jame Vaughan, overated.

Walcott is to young.

And you know this how? Turning out to be over rated? He's 17!! Sometimes I wonder if you have ever watched a game of football in your life.
 






RonnieO'Sullivan

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can anyone explain to me how Theo Walcott DESERVES a chance ahead of Darren Bent?
 




Simon Morgan

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RonnieO'Sullivan said:
can anyone explain to me how Theo Walcott DESERVES a chance ahead of Darren Bent?

it's not about keeping darren bent happy! in my opinion, walcott seems the type of player who can transform a game in an instant, he is an unbelievable talent from what i've seen. yes, darren bent has scored goals regularly this season, but i'm afraid i fail to see how he will strike fear into the best defences in the world!
 




Billy the Fish

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Uncle Buck said:
Was Owen not a similar age in 1998 and he did rather well. Also Rooney at Euro 2004 was only 18 and he was our best player.
Owen and ronney were both regulars in the 1st team at their clubs before those tournaments. Walcott hasn't played a game for Arsenal. Could all the people having a go at 1066 for not having seen Walcott let us all know how many times you have seen him play this season. How many of those games were in the top flight?
 


Uncle Buck

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Billy the Fish said:
Owen and ronney were both regulars in the 1st team at their clubs before those tournaments. Walcott hasn't played a game for Arsenal. Could all the people having a go at 1066 for not having seen Walcott let us all know how many times you have seen him play this season. How many of those games were in the top flight?

It is a huge risk.

I guess they are banking on him as an impact player who might be able to turn a game and they do not see Defoe or Bent as being able to do that.

Every World Cup one player unexpectidly turns out to be the star. Platt in 1990?

Also Hoddle was not even going to take Owen in 1998, the only reason he went was because Wright got injured against Morroco.
 


Tooting Gull

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It's a judgment call on Walcott. I think it's a bad decision from Sven, as has been said comparisons with Owen and Rooney are way off the mark purely because we had at least seen them play at the top level domestically.

Walcott seems the real deal for the future, but you cannot make a logical case for taking him ahead of Bent, Defoe or Johnson at this moment in time.

If you take a wild card to this World Cup you take Lennon, which hopefully he will. Anything else appears self-indulgent nonsense - but I'm sure we'll be cheering if the kid scores a wonder-goal.
 




Brighton Breezy

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I do not think it is as bad as everyone is making out.

There is still time to pull another striker in off the reserve list and at least Phil Neville isnt going.

Makes sense to have Hargreaves as a utility player but I would have opted for King (or Dawson for that matter) over Campbel.

Would have been nice for Fowler to get one last coke fueled pop at the world stage bearing in mind the injuries but Lennon's selection is sensible and he or Downing could push Cole into a role behind Owen.

Lets wait and see how things go.
 


Rusthall Seagull

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Billy the Fish said:
Owen and ronney were both regulars in the 1st team at their clubs before those tournaments. Walcott hasn't played a game for Arsenal. Could all the people having a go at 1066 for not having seen Walcott let us all know how many times you have seen him play this season. How many of those games were in the top flight?

not a question of how many times people have seen him play...

i think it was the 'overated' and 'too young' comments people were commenting on!
 


Uncle Buck

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Rusthall Seagull said:
not a question of how many times people have seen him play...

i think it was the 'overated' and 'too young' comments people were commenting on!

I do not buy into the too young thing, if you are good enough you are old enough.

On the overated, well he has only played a handful of games. I think his raw pace alone got him a place. I am guessing if used it will be as some form of, if you like, impact sub. Get him on the shoulder of the last defender and get the ball over the top for him to run on to.
 




RonnieO'Sullivan

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Woody the Seagull said:
it's not about keeping darren bent happy! in my opinion, walcott seems the type of player who can transform a game in an instant, he is an unbelievable talent from what i've seen. yes, darren bent has scored goals regularly this season, but i'm afraid i fail to see how he will strike fear into the best defences in the world!

and is walcott going to do this?

i fear not...
 


Schrödinger's Toad

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Jan 21, 2004
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Utter, utter madness by Sven. No other side will go to the World Cup with two fit strikers, one of whom is shit, the other has never played a second of Premiership football.
 


RonnieO'Sullivan

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Uncle Buck said:
Not sure Bent deserves to go, but Walcott as one of only 4 strikers is a huge risk. If he had taken say Owen, Rooney, Rodders, then one of Vassell or Fowler, then Walcott for the ride that would have been OK.

i agree with that...

personally id take bent and find it unbelievable that he aint even on the reserve list in case of injuries...

baffles me...
 




Taxi

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I think Svens got the squad correct.

Only change I would have made was not have the bald diving cheat on standby.
 
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Billy the Fish

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Rusthall Seagull said:
not a question of how many times people have seen him play...

i think it was the 'overated' and 'too young' comments people were commenting on!
A better word to use would be inexperienced having never played a game in the top division. I think the situation here is the same as with Hargreves in the way that no one has really seen them play on a regular basis. It's difficult to pass judgement on a player like that, one way or the other. I assume sven has seen him in a few reserve games and sees somthing in the lad that is worth a gamble. Personally i'd rather have bent or defoe
 


Uncle Buck

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RonnieO'Sullivan said:
i agree with that...

personally id take bent and find it unbelievable that he aint even on the reserve list in case of injuries...

baffles me...

I have reservations about Bent, he strikes me as a good club player, but lack that extra bit needed for international football, Beattie is the same.

Of what was left, I would have taken Vassell, not because he is any better than Bent, but he has had a habit in the past of scoring for England.
 


Simon Morgan

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Uncle Buck said:
I do not buy into the too young thing, if you are good enough you are old enough.

On the overated, well he has only played a handful of games. I think his raw pace alone got him a place. I am guessing if used it will be as some form of, if you like, impact sub. Get him on the shoulder of the last defender and get the ball over the top for him to run on to.

i completely agree 100% with all of that:clap:
 




Rusthall Seagull

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Uncle Buck said:
I have reservations about Bent, he strikes me as a good club player, but lack that extra bit needed for international football, Beattie is the same.

Of what was left, I would have taken Vassell, not because he is any better than Bent, but he has had a habit in the past of scoring for England.

This is the problem....DB is just not good enough...sure, he's a good club pro, but you get the feeling that is as far as it goes...Vassell is injured I think....
 


RonnieO'Sullivan

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Uncle Buck said:
I have reservations about Bent, he strikes me as a good club player, but lack that extra bit needed for international football, Beattie is the same.

Of what was left, I would have taken Vassell, not because he is any better than Bent, but he has had a habit in the past of scoring for England.

u speak alot of sense uncle buck...

i just find myself thinking the decision to take walcott is a bit rash and has only been made because of the rooney incident...

i havent got anything against walcott as i think the lad has a great future...
 


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