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Stand up for poppies
- Thread starter Return of the Rev
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Actually its saying I remember ALL those that have fallen. Doesn't differentiate between sides, how, why they fell...................
In 1922, Major George Howson, a young infantry officer, formed the Disabled Society, to help disabled ex-Service men and women from the First World War. Howson suggested to the Legion that members of the Disabled Society could make poppies and the Poppy Factory was subsequently founded in Richmond in 1922. The original poppy was designed so that workers with a disability could easily assemble it and this principle remains today
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Falkor
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I was angry when i heard about this and still am, but if the FA really want to make a point, why not next year organise a international charity friendly and donate all the funds to the RBL instead of the money from the tickets going to the FA etc..... Fifa have made there stance they will not change it, even with David Cameron coming out and having a go also.
There will be a 1min silence at the Amex game on Thursday also.
There will be a 1min silence at the Amex game on Thursday also.
keaton
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Or we never used to have poppies on shirts?
Hasn't it only been on shirts for six years or so?
I'm with Beardy/Hillian1. What a fuss over nothing.
There are a million ways the FA can promote the poppy appeal - they did so with great affect at the last round of Premiership matches with poppies on team shirts and a wonderfully respected minute silence at all grounds. Football is a world game. As Hillian says, I wouldn't want any other country abusing it.
There are a million ways the FA can promote the poppy appeal - they did so with great affect at the last round of Premiership matches with poppies on team shirts and a wonderfully respected minute silence at all grounds. Football is a world game. As Hillian says, I wouldn't want any other country abusing it.
Easy 10
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•The England players will wear black armbands during the Spain game on Saturday
•The FA will place a poppy wreath on the pitch during the national anthems
•There will be a one-minute silence ahead of kick-off
•Players will wear training tops with embroidered poppies on match day
•Players will wear poppy-embossed anthem jackets during the national anthems
•Military representatives will be in the presentation party prior to kick-off
•The FA has donated 500 England v Spain tickets to 'Tickets for Troops', for members of the armed forces, and 1,000 tickets for the England v Sweden game on Tuesday (this is standard FA policy for Wembley matches)
•The England senior squad will train at Wembley on Friday ahead of the Spain game. They will observe the two-minute silence at 11am, all wearing training tops embossed with poppies. This session will be broadcast live
•The training tops embossed with poppies will be passed onto forces' charities post-match as auction items for fund raising
•The poppy will be visible around Wembley on Saturday, on the scoreboards and advertising boards, and poppy sellers will be in the stadium to allow supporters to donate to the poppy fund and show their support
•On Thursday, England Under-21s play Iceland in Colchester and England U19s play Denmark in Brighton. All players and staff will be wearing poppies pre- and post-match
•Both the Under-21s and U19s will observe a one-minute silence, too, at their games - the Under-21s will do so alongside troops from Colchester barracks.
I reckon that covers it personally. Not worth the BINFEST over wearing it on the shirts.
The red poppy is a symbol of remembrance rather than 'peace' - that's why it's not political. Unlike the white poppy which IS political, and it isn't a symbol of peace, it's worn as a deliberate political statement and is designed to provoke anger.
I'm no supporter of Britain's foreign wars (and I'll include Ireland in that), but you won't catch me wearing one.
no its doesn't.
This. The white poppy is a load of utter TURD.
So do I.
The whole matter of poppy wearing to remember those who lost their lives in war has become something of a huge, almost compulsory out of control,dare I say it,bandwagon.I am in my 60's and like many others lost relatives in both World Wars and had others who survived.However,in the last 10 years or so ,I have noticed that poppies are on sale for weeks before Remembrance Day and those on tv are wearing them from about mid October onwards.No-one either visiting tv studios as a guest on a programme or those presenting would dare not wear a poppy for fear of being branded a social outcast.To me, this in many ways dilutes what some of Remembrance Day should be about........freedom.
I can remember from my childhood at school when we had the opportunity to buy a poppy during the week preceding Remembrance Day and the whole matter of remembering those who died was a quieter more dignified process.It isn't necessary to wear a poppy 24/7 to pay respects.
Anyway,I am off the subject question a bit.Trouble is with allowing the poppy to be worn, is where does it all stop?In future,other countries may have matters they may want to remember that are equally as important to them as a poppy may be to this country.Whilst many may say the poppy is not a political statement, it may well be viewed differently by others.I believe there is to be a minute's silence before the match,which is fine.Why not leave it at that.It doesn't mean nobody cares if the players are not wearing embroidered poppies on their shirts.
The Camel
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I think it's the first time I've ever agreed with FIFA over anything.
What next, the Sudan national team wearing badges remembering dead Al Qaeda members?
How would the Daily Mail feel about that?
One man's war hero is another man's terrorist.
Football should have no connection to war or soldiers.
What next, the Sudan national team wearing badges remembering dead Al Qaeda members?
How would the Daily Mail feel about that?
One man's war hero is another man's terrorist.
Football should have no connection to war or soldiers.
beardy gull
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Agreed, although it does seem weird that they are not willing to have them on shirts, when poppies will be on just about everything else.
It's because 'football shirts with poppies printed on them' weren't around until a few years ago, that's why it was never a problem in the past.
I'm in the 'storm in a teacup' camp. I can see FIFA's point of view.
beardy gull
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I see Cameron is sticking his oar in now. Hasn't he got more important matters to deal with?
I went to an England v Holland game a few years back where the Dutch wore a half white half black strip as an anti-racism stand. If the poppy is political then so is this. Time to leave FIFA to the countries it is really there for. The only thing they have is the World Cup, which they have suceeded in degrading to such an extent (3rd world places for votes) that it is now mainly dross and doesn't compare well against the European Championship. They have killed the Golden Goose. Lets now ram it up their arse.
Football is a world game, so whilst anti-racism is political, it also fits in neatly with football's position as the world's most popular sport. There is literally nothing contentious about anti-racism is there?
What a load of fuss. I'll join FIFA in not allowing it. I'm a big supporter of remembrance day, but I don't think FIFA should have to choose which days to endorse as, like others have said, it will put them in a difficult position when other countries want to do something closer to the line. It sounds like plenty will be done on the day.
ALL those that have fallen? So does that include Hitler? I'm sure there were good men that fell on all sides, but there were certainly some evil men that fell too. I'm a little more choosy about whom I remember.
Although an international match, between teams selcted on the geographical birthplace of the player) doesn't really fit very neatly with the anti racism stance.