Southend goals

[Kylies Stunt Arse]

Will the highlights be on Football League review or whatever as it was a cup game? Not taking the piss, just wondering.

 

[Caveman]

That 2nd goal was unstopable as was the 3rd. We'd be unlucky to let in two goals like that in a game again this season.

 

[Schrödinger's Toad]

Just seen the goals; not exactly an inspired night's goalkeeping by Mr Kuipers ...

 

[NS Herald]

Just seen the goals; not exactly an inspired night's goalkeeping by Mr Kuipers ...

A little harsh me thinks....

We couldn't see it clearly at the time but having seen the hightlights just now it didn't help that the equaliser appeared to be first headed by our defender back towards goal from the corner and a combination of their striker and Michel fumbling it in the net?

The other two strikes were virtually unstoppable - Eastwoods was still accelerating as it hit the back of the net.....

 

[NMH]

Just interested to find out if, as there are so many strong opinions out there are they based on knowledge gained via official coaching courses or from simply watching games. We're all entitled to opinions, especially about football. I haven't seen the goals personally so don't feel I can comment on why or whose fault etc.

If every fan watching football has to have a coaching badge, it's going to be a sparse silent terrace with no atmosphere at every game, and NSC will be down to three members.
Personally (and we really should NOT have to say 'personally' as of course opinion is always of personal origin ferfuxsake) I believe the repeated relinquishing of leads for my club of personal choice, has to point to some kinds of tactical flaws. If it were player-ineptitudes, we would be conceding goals by the dozen (almost, for the last two home games v Stoke and Crewe that I've attented!)

If anyone wants to refute fan opinion as meaningless, let me remind them of the reason given for the ousting of our last manager ( )
Generally speaking though, Wilkins has taken over management of someone else's player-collection so perhaps could be forgiven for having to endure any silly mistakes from silly professionals. They fell apart, as they often do, when an opposition 'ups their game' with a little more desparation or intent.
We might beat sides who are a) having a bad day b) can't be bothered c) don't realise how to come at us and play cautious football - but as soon as oppositions realise we are there for the taking, we get taken - let's face it.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

A little harsh me thinks....

We couldn't see it clearly at the time but having seen the hightlights just now it didn't help that the equaliser appeared to be first headed by our defender back towards goal from the corner and a combination of their striker and Michel fumbling it in the net?

The other two strikes were virtually unstoppable - Eastwoods was still accelerating as it hit the back of the net.....

No not really.

Interesting to see beaten at near post for Eastwoods.

 

[Silent Bob]

Just seen the goals; not exactly an inspired night's goalkeeping by Mr Kuipers ...

It's a shame the only back up we have is an untried youth team keeper.

 

[Yoda]

No not really.

Interesting to see beaten at near post for Eastwoods.

I'd love to see you try with a shot at that speed.

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

Just watched the video a few times and it seems the first goal ia an own goal. Kuipers is stranded in no mans land. Butters is marking at the near post. Lynch misses his header and the ball then comes off Dean Hammond's head into Kuipers who seems to be unable to prevent it from going into the net.
For the second goal El-Abd heads the ball clear into the path of Lewis Hunt but Doug Loft does not close him down and turns his back towards him as he shoots.
For the third goal Doug Loft loses Freddie Eastwood and he lets rip with his shot.
Looks like Mr Loft needs to do more workon the defending aspect of his game to me.

 

[London Irish]

It looks to me Kuipers own goal, Hammond assist. Surely up there with the bizarrest own goals we have ever conceded, it is not touched by a Southend player the moment the corner is taken, Paynter is clearly the other side of Lynch and hence couldn't have touched it in as Hammond's bizarre header came back across goal. Kuipers has to be at fault not necessarily for what looks like his palm into the goal at the end, that was plain unlucky, but for misjudging the flight of the corner and then finding himself badly out of position.

Looking at the second goal, the only disapppinting thing is that we had about 3 defensive headers before it went in?

 

[Easy 10]

They fell apart, as they often do, when an opposition 'ups their game' with a little more desparation or intent.
We might beat sides who are a) having a bad day b) can't be bothered c) don't realise how to come at us and play cautious football - but as soon as oppositions realise we are there for the taking, we get taken - let's face it.

He's right you know.

 

[Les Biehn]

I think it's fair to say our biggest problem is teams scoring more than us over the 90mins. If that happens it often means you lose.

 

[Man of Harveys]

He's right you know.

Well, that might have been the case in some games so far but mainly in those before McGhee got s...anyway, can't be arsed.

 

[Silent Bob]

I think it's fair to say our biggest problem is teams scoring more than us over the 90mins. If that happens it often means you lose.

Have they done away with the "we drew the first 10 minutes" rule?

 

[Yoda]

I think it's fair to say our biggest problem is teams scoring more than us over the 90mins. If that happens it often means you lose.

He's right you know. That is always a big problem when it happens.

 

[Les Biehn]

He's right you know. That is always a big problem when it happens.

Its not always a dead cert you will lose a football match over 90mins by conceding more goals than the opposition but statistics say you are 98.243526763828238836327626382973083738907398379872389273837% more likely to.

 

[Les Biehn]

Its not always a dead cert you will lose a football match over 90mins by conceding more goals than the opposition but statistics say you are 98.243526763828238836327626382973083738907398379872389273837% more likely to.

Although this can increase greatly to around 143.938383884764441% if Richard Carpenter and Dean Hammond are you central midfield pairing.

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

It looks to me Kuipers own goal, Hammond assist. Surely up there with the bizarrest own goals we have ever conceded, it is not touched by a Southend player the moment the corner is taken, Paynter is clearly the other side of Lynch and hence couldn't have touched it in as Hammond's bizarre header came back across goal. Kuipers has to be at fault not necessarily for what looks like his palm into the goal at the end, that was plain unlucky, but for misjudging the flight of the corner and then finding himself badly out of position.

Looking at the second goal, the only disapppinting thing is that we had about 3 defensive headers before it went in?

Agree LI, on the second goal we had the chance three times to clear the ball all from headers. They simply weren't good enough to get the ball out of the danger area. They kept on landing just outside the eighteen yard box everytime.

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

For the second goal I was also dissapointed with Loft for turning his back on the shot. He could have closed the man down and done a brave blocking tackle.

 

[Les Biehn]

Just watched the goals and I have to say the whole defence and Kuipers were at fault for the corner. If the keeper comes for that ball you have to at least punch it out. Also a lot of players were the wrong side of their man or dropping off them.

God knows what Hammond was doing as well. If he thought Kuipers was gonna make it why did he duck like that, if he thought Kuipers wasn't gonna make it why duck like that? He should have stood tall and got up to challenge for the ball no matter what he thought was gonna happen. He was also the wrong side of his man. As soon as its heading towards the goal you can't blame anyone because that ball could go anywhere.

One thing I noticed about all 3 goals was there were a lot of players bunched up in the middle, understandably with the high ball. However it seemed like nobody was sure who they should be picking up as nearly everyone was in this area and our players were letting Southend players run across them. Once the Southend players got away from one the others were static and slow to react.