went down to the station at hove 4 a late nite drink after the dogs,couldnt beleive it when the bouncers said they shut at 11 now,the smoking ban has really effected us!!!.But i really enjoyed going out last nite without the horrid smokey atmosphere
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Smoking ban - something I didn't consider!
- Thread starter Mrs Coach
- Start date
You seem to know a lot about it. I've only ever heard of brewers droop before.
cjd
Well-known member
The point of this thread....? Got to admit after the many diverse opinions in over 160 replies, seems to me that non-smokers want smokers to be banned everywhere and it is one of the most important topics of debate in this troubled world. I can understand non-smokers not wanting people smoking around them.I don,t have a real problem with that.I thought Tedebear had a point by suggesting that there be smoking and non-smoking pubs.
It is the number of posters who think they are giving us vital and previously unheard of information regarding the health effects of smoking.
I also have an issue with people who believe that financially, smokers are a huge liability to the rest of society.
I also have an issue with people who believe that by not smoking, or passive smoking they will lead a healthy, pain free and fulfilling life until their 80's and90's.
I also have an issue with people who are just plain rude, or spew their bile on here.
In answer to your other questions;
Yes, I do smoke.
If my children are in the garden when I,m smoking, yes, they see me doing so.
To save you the trouble I will also answer what will probably be your follow up questions;
Yes, I am aware that my children are more likely to smoke as adults if I do.Statistically, more children are likely to smoke if their mother smokes than their father. This, of course does concern me. However, they are very young and by the time they are able to smoke ( ? 14) I think by then smoking will be completely banned.
I am far more concerned by alcohol abuse by the young and of course the use of illegal drugs.
The problem with children when they are growing up, is that since time immemorial they have done things they shouldn,t when reaching puberty etc. it,s part of growing up and rebelling. As a parent, I do some things right....and some things wrong. Above all, I hope I will teach them to think for themselves and make their own judgements as they grow older.
Some of the things I dont do in front of them, is;
be downright abusive to people
use foul language
threaten people
or indeed go on other message boards and wish cancer on other posters.
Cheeky Monkey
Well-known member
- Jul 17, 2003
- 23,877
The smoking ban is a frickin disaster, and not just for us smokers, Gala Bingo in Kemptown has profits down by 25% since the ban as people nip out for a fag break between games rather than playing the 'table top' bingo machines between games (at which they used to be able to smoke). It's a frickin disaster I tell you! Several bingo halls up north have been forced to close since the ban and it's only been a week! Pete Docherty threatened with police action for smoking on stage at T in the Park concert last night - in a frickin park!!
cannedheat
Banned
You have not seen the anti smoking adverts on TV then, erectile dysfunction brought about by smoking will be something I will never ever suffer from.
I watch very little tv. I know it never affected my ex husband at all.
Cheeky Monkey
Well-known member
- Jul 17, 2003
- 23,877
When I was growing up my parents were (and still are) rabidly anti-smoking and made us fully aware of the perils of smoking etc. At 18 I started smoking. Just goes to show that parental views/the way parents bring up a child do/does not necessarily influence the choices the child makes as it grows up.
cannedheat
Banned
Well here it is.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,31200-1265931,00.html
Hope the link works.
cjd
Well-known member
Well, be happy then........I,m sure you,ll make a lot of 85 year old women very happy in the future.....
Dick Knights Mumm
Take me Home Falmer Road
Oh My God ........ will someone please think of the Bingo Halls .........................
bhaexpress
New member
Didn't have any follow up questions actually. It would seem to me that this thread is about smokers complaining about the law being changed in favour of non smokers. As I have said a few times here (if you'd read the whole thread) I could care less who smokes as long as it's not around me. Whether you smoke in front of your children is your choice too. It's the opinion however of people who are better qualified than either you or me that smoking in any enclosed space is a bad idea and in fact England is by no means the first country in the world to impose such a ban.
As usual Lucky Boy Farang (if you'd have read some of his comments I think that speaks for itself) has mislead you as not unlike one or two others on here to whom lying comes naturally. Maybe you'd be better off sticking to the facts when you start accusing people.
cannedheat
Banned
bhaexpress
New member
You were a late starter ! Most people start smoking at an earlier age as it was considered 'adult'. I am an ex smoker having given up a long time ago. Mind you I can't say it was hard as I have never missed it unlike some.
I think it's fair to say that all of the anti ban sentiments posted here are the same as one comments made in other countries when they introduced a smoking ban but let's face it, they still function don't they ? I didn't notice any empty pubs in Dublin last year for instance.
If passive smoking is so serious how come those who served in the Navy and were cooped up on board ship for weeks at sea with smokers, aren't suing the Government? The living space was far more cramped than any living room or pub area.
Does anyone have the actual figures for cancer deaths either of smokers and/or passive smokers?
Does anyone have the actual figures for cancer deaths either of smokers and/or passive smokers?
bhaexpress
New member
Seeing as the government can't agree on Gulf War Syndrome I can't see many matelots getting anywhere with that one but it's a fair comment. The plain fact is though that we are not the first country to have this ban and people soon adapt to it. Storm in a teacup in the grand scale of things.
That's my point. I think we are banning it here because other countries are doing it, not because it actually does cause the amount of damage the media would have us believe.
Uncle Spielberg
Well-known member
I think the " passive smoking WILL kill me " has been over egged to say the least. The non smokers have listened to a load of subjective toss and brought it, I do not know of 1 person in my lifetime personally who has died a a result of being a non smoker and getting cancer from passive smoking. I do know several people who have died of cancer who were avid non smokers and got cancer from other causes. The medical profession have not given any hard facts and case studies of people who have died of passive smoking, its a figure plucked out of the air and cannot be proved how the cancer was caused. I do not belive that a person sitting next to me with some smoke wafting in their direction will kill them absolutely not, it may smell and be unpleasant quite possibly but kill them absolute bollocks. Its a rope to hang the smokers which is being conveniently used. I believe far more people will die from alcohol / drug abuse and also Obesity than from passive smoking, million percent more. A compramise should have been made with non smoking areas and smoking areas in a ventilated pub but the health nazi's got their way and they are already moving onto alcohol.
Please don't argue that smoking isn't that bad for you or that passive smoking deosn't exist. Please.
I haven't said that, so get off your high horse. I'm glad I don't smoke any more.
I have asked for some official figures. Do you know any or where to find them?