Smoking ban - something I didn't consider!

[Seagullible]

WE WANT CHOIVE, WE WANT CHOIVE.

oops

 

[Billy the Fish]

I can't believe the hysteria coming from some people about second hand smoke. The chances of you getting lung cancer from one or two nights a week in the pub are miniscule, the way some people on here are going on about it you'd think smokers were filling the pub with mustard gas.

 

[The Wookiee]

I am a smoker and i am 100% IN FAVOUR of the ban

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

it is quite absurd, if and its a big if, 600 get cancer a year thats a 1 in 100 000 chance a year, in the statistics league table of possible events that is right down at the bottom with the " there's such a small chance of this happening as to forget it ", the chance of getting murdered is something like 1 in 10000. People need to toughen up and not be such wet lettuce , big girl's blouses.

 

[keaton]

it is quite absurd, if and its a big if, 600 get cancer a year thats a 1 in 100 000 chance a year, in the statistics league table of possible events that is right down at the bottom with the " there's such a small chance of this happening as to forget it ", the chance of getting murdered is something like 1 in 10000. People need to toughen up and not be such wet lettuce , big girl's blouses.

Yeah the 600 who die should just stop whinging aye?
why don't the people who just "toughen up and not be such wet lettuce , big girl's blouses" and smoke outside and not force their smoke on other people?

 

[cannedheat]

it is quite absurd, if and its a big if, 600 get cancer a year thats a 1 in 100 000 chance a year, in the statistics league table of possible events that is right down at the bottom with the " there's such a small chance of this happening as to forget it ", the chance of getting murdered is something like 1 in 10000. People need to toughen up and not be such wet lettuce , big girl's blouses.

The only girls blouses are the smokers, wimps who cannot stop.

 

[Cian]

I can't believe the hysteria coming from some people about second hand smoke. The chances of you getting lung cancer from one or two nights a week in the pub are miniscule, the way some people on here are going on about it you'd think smokers were filling the pub with mustard gas.

4 or 5 nights a week from opening till after closing does do damage though. Its not quite the same as two hours down there on a Friday and Saturday. Which is the entire damn point - the ban is about protecting the staff, not the punters.

 

[Cian]

can't be bothered to read the whole thread but feel the government have missed a trick here. Why not issue smoking licenses for pubs? they could pay £20k a year to allow smoking in the pub thus leaving us with CHOIVE! the money raised could go into hospitals directly

Sorry to say that I think you'll find most people would prefer not to get lung cancer in the first place, not to know "oh well, at least theres the price of a 1/4 of a course of non-reliable treatment 'behind the bar' in my local hospital"....

 

[Heffle Gull]

100% of non smokers die


FACT

 

[tedebear]

Erm, it is legally impossible as it is exactly equivalent to anything else illegal. Why can't you understand that?

I think you're wrong - there are exemptions for everything....Smoking in itself is not illegal...where you do it is....Like drinking - there are places where its illegal to drink, so there are exeptions there?

Edited as I forgot to answer your other question - yes I have worked in two golf clubs, one as financial controller, one as a trainee pro. where smoking was allowed everywhere - even the dressing rooms...

No response - or do you agree with that?

 

[Seagullible]

Sorry to say that I think you'll find most people would prefer not to get lung cancer in the first place, not to know "oh well, at least theres the price of a 1/4 of a course of non-reliable treatment 'behind the bar' in my local hospital"....

my point is more about choice. A bar can decide to be a smokerspub if it wants and then people can decide if they want to take the risk or not. By charging those pubs that want to allow smoking, the money can be used for something good.

 

[Simster]

I'm not so sure about your first point - the Crown and Anchor in Shoreham has been non smoking for some time now...non smoking landlord who chose that stance and its been very popular....

What saddens me is people like Maurice (can't remember his last name) who smokes a pipe in the Sovereign, whilst supping his ale....he served the country for years, flying various planes for the Royal Navy, is in his 90's and its the only time he gets out....so now he sits at home on his own.....as of the smoking ban he said.."I served my country and this is what I get?"....

Its not much effort for smokers to go outside I agree....but the heart of the matter is the loss of choice to do so...

But for every Maurice, there are probably 5 people who also served their country and are also in their 90s who have had to endure smoking in their locals for years. And there are probably others who would be in their 90s if they hadn't had their lives cut short through passively smoking the tobacco from the pipes of smokers such as Maurice.

So yes, it's sad about Maurice - but isn't it about time the voices of anti smokers were heard?

And all this bullshit about health nazis and governments. Pah! I WANT my government to make bold decisions especially when they're for public benefit. And discouraging smoking is certainly in the public interest.

 

[tedebear]

So yes, it's sad about Maurice - but isn't it about time the voices of anti smokers were heard?

Of course and rightly so, by providing the choice I believe...

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Just go outside in the "fresh air" and have your smoke. We have had to put up with stinking clothes for decades because you want to light up.

 

[British Bulldog]

And all this bullshit about health nazis and governments. Pah! I WANT my government to make bold decisions especially when they're for public benefit.

How about they start restricting the amount of cars on the road for a start, One car per household should be the maximum allowed. There's far more harm coming out of exhaust pipes than any cigarette i've ever smoked.

 

[Cian]

my point is more about choice. A bar can decide to be a smokerspub if it wants and then people can decide if they want to take the risk or not. By charging those pubs that want to allow smoking, the money can be used for something good.

It still doesn't get around the little tiny "killing the staff" issue. And no, claiming they can choose not to work there is no argument.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

How about they start restricting the amount of cars on the road for a start, One car per household should be the maximum allowed. There's far more harm coming out of exhaust pipes than any cigarette i've ever smoked.

True. I wouldn't want to go in any pub that had cars inside with the engines running.

 

[tedebear]

How about they start restricting the amount of cars on the road for a start, One car per household should be the maximum allowed. There's far more harm coming out of exhaust pipes than any cigarette i've ever smoked.

Only if you chase the car down the street, clamp your lips around its 150 degree exhaust and inhale deeply!!

 

[Cian]

No response - or do you agree with that?

What is there to agree with? You said there are places where drinking is banned, which there are. If a category of place is banned, there are no exemptions - all Dublin Bus vehicles, all public streets in the Dublin Corporation area, and so on.

There are also places where smoking is banned, which is all workplaces excluding residences. There are no exemptions here either.

Your comparison doesn't work.

 

[Cian]

Of course and rightly so, by providing the choice I believe...

Your "choice" means "a choice for selfish smokers to continue killing people, and no choice for anyone else", though.