[Politics] Sir Keir Starmer apologises for 'administrative errors'

[Blue Valkyrie]

Budget false equivalence.

Lol.

 

[Badger Boy]

Is this the best that the Tory's can do to try and slander Sir Keir? Extraordinary mountain out of a molehill story this one is, it's a stretch even for them.

It almost makes me want to go back and look at all the things they accused Jeremy Corbyn of being. It got to the point that they must know the "reporting" was nonsense because nobody could be so many underhand things at the same time. It's also pathetic how some people will claim this is a "scandal" which is the equivalence of even the most ordinary day in the current Government.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Wait until Starmer makes a minor error with some trivia he says to the Queen. The "lying to the Queen" false equivalence is no doubt already written and ready. Lol.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Whether you are right or wrong I think it fair to say that most people on this forum draw their conclusions based on whichever colour rosette they get behind on every other issue.

Yes, like me when I urged people to vote anything but labour when Corbyn was leader.

Oh, hang on, I'm a labour member. Doh!

And it's not just me who can take the bigger view. Plenty of tory voters have been on NSC to express their disavowment of Johnson, and I salute them.

However there is a massive difference between drawing a conclusion and promoting a position. Many tories on NSC have drawn their conclusion (that Johnson is a disgrace) and have decided to avoid the politics threads, which is fair enough. In contrast, the OP of this thread is promoting a position, which is partly why he's been getting pelters.

Your suggestion that this is nothing more than ordinary political tribesmanship is wrong.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Is giving someone an ironic thumbs up, a sign of arrogance, in a 'I'm not listening. You lose the argument as you replied to me' kind of way?

I've no idea but I've received one as well from him.

What he normally does after embarrassing himself with a stupid post or thread like this, is to logoff but continue to constantly follow the thread throughout the rest of his daily NSC 'shift'. There then comes a point where he can't resist any longer and simply has to log on, give a thumbs up and then logoff very quickly again.

Now he is in a predicament. He is dying to give this post a thumbs up but doesn't want to appear to spend his whole life monitoring NSC. Decisions decisions

 

[BBassic]

PoTG is a Poundland PPF.

 

[jcdenton08]

Bit of a non story really, happens all the time including two years running with Boris. Just an administrative mistake, nothing dishonest about it.

That said, it is very amusing what an echo chamber this place is when it comes to politics, with just a few outliers

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Bit of a non story really, happens all the time including two years running with Boris. Just an administrative mistake, nothing dishonest about it.

That said, it is very amusing what an echo chamber this place is when it comes to politics, with just a few outliers

Are you an outlier?

 

[Lever]

Your pathetic attempt at drawing equivalence between this non-issue and Johnson's lockdown parties is painfully reductive. Most* members of this forum are grown up enough to draw their own conclusions here and I'm afraid you're not coming across as half as clever as you think you are.

That might be a bit unfair...

He seems to think he is a wit; in reality, I think he portrays half the self-delusion.....

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Yes, like me when I urged people to vote anything but labour when Corbyn was leader.

Oh, hang on, I'm a labour member. Doh!

And it's not just me who can take the bigger view. Plenty of tory voters have been on NSC to express their disavowment of Johnson, and I salute them.

However there is a massive difference between drawing a conclusion and promoting a position. Many tories on NSC have drawn their conclusion (that Johnson is a disgrace) and have decided to avoid the politics threads, which is fair enough. In contrast, the OP of this thread is promoting a position, which is partly why he's been getting pelters.

Your suggestion that this is nothing more than ordinary political tribesmanship is wrong.

Well, go through the thread and try and find someone saying something that is inconsistent with their stated favoured political party. NSC political threads are a similar state to American politics. Completely tribal. I am not offering any view on the Starmer thing. I genuinely don’t give a damn. The OP is being a bit naughty but he has clearly hit a nerve.

 

[portlock seagull]

Politicians don’t make mistakes, or apologise. They’re too busy looking forward, getting on with the job and delivering what the people want, to comment on anything in the past, even if it only happened just seconds ago. People should just leave them alone. In fact people shouldn’t even ask them questions. It detracts from them getting on with the job, delivering what the people want and looking forward.

There is no time to lose in politics. Especially when you’re getting on with the job, delivering what the people want and looking forward.

 

[Lever]

Well, go through the thread and try and find someone saying something that is inconsistent with their stated favoured political party. NSC political threads are a similar state to American politics. Completely tribal. I am not offering any view on the Starmer thing. I genuinely don’t give a damn. The OP is being a bit naughty but he has clearly hit a nerve.

The problem with this argument lies in the irony of the thread title; the title itself is 'inconsistent with a stated favoured political party'... and for one who 'genuinely doesn't give a damn', you have expended some time and a little effort writing about it, suggesting your comments are a bit disingenuous. Just saying.....

 

[tigertim68]

The trouble is we live in a country where the right wing press are disproportionately powerful, biased beyond shame and desperate to draw some sort of equivalence between the opposition and the most tawdry of governments we’ve ever seen.

Starmer needs to be whiter than white. Personally I think this will damage him

No the trouble is our biggest broadcaster, the BBC is the most left wing , PC oriented organisation in the country

 

[WATFORD zero]

Whether you are right or wrong I think it fair to say that most people on this forum draw their conclusions based on whichever colour rosette they get behind on every other issue.

Well, go through the thread and try and find someone saying something that is inconsistent with their stated favoured political party. NSC political threads are a similar state to American politics. Completely tribal. I am not offering any view on the Starmer thing. I genuinely don’t give a damn. The OP is being a bit naughty but he has clearly hit a nerve.

I'll just leave this here. Have a good evening

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Well, go through the thread and try and find someone saying something that is inconsistent with their stated favoured political party. NSC political threads are a similar state to American politics. Completely tribal. I am not offering any view on the Starmer thing. I genuinely don’t give a damn. The OP is being a bit naughty but he has clearly hit a nerve.

I don't have a favorite party - although I hate ( really ) the ERG wing of the Tories and despise Crime Minister Johnson.

I disliked May because she pandered so much to the ERG.

I once made the mistake ( as it turned out ) of voting for Cameron. I should have opted for Chaos with Ed Miliband instead.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

The problem with this argument lies in the irony of the thread title; the title itself is 'inconsistent with a stated favoured political party'... and for one who 'genuinely doesn't give a damn' you have expended some time and a little effort saying so, so maybe your comments are a bit disingenuous. Just saying.....

Not really. My previously stated intention is to vote Labour at the next election and I genuinely don’t give a damn about Starmer’s administrative error. Seems odd to accuse me of lying because I disagree with you. Perhaps I’m not pure enough to have the right to vote Labour ? Far better to keep it as an exclusive and small club I suppose. It was always like that when I was a member of the party as well. Which was the reason I didn’t renew.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

I'll just leave this here. Have a good evening

How odd. It’s lovely to have my name up in lights but I’m voting Labour at the next election……

 

[BBassic]

No the trouble is our biggest broadcaster, the BBC is the most left wing , PC oriented organisation in the country

Wanna hear something funny? I, a left wing wakeybakey snowflaky weeny, find the BBC to be a bit right wing

Which probably means it's nailing the impartiality.

 

[Eric the meek]

That might be a bit unfair...

He seems to think he is a wit; in reality, I think he portrays half the self-delusion.....

He does seem to have a superiority complex.

But why does he award a thumbs up to his opponents? Is it sarcasm? Contempt? Something else?
One possibility is that he needs a reaction. Any reaction, and he doesn't care whether it is favourable or not.
Another possibility is that he's letting them know he's reading their replies, but does not wish to engage in debate with them.

Of course, if he did engage, he would be running the risk of losing his own argument. By not engaging, he can convince himself he has won the argument.

 

[Lever]

Not really. My previously stated intention is to vote Labour at the next election and I genuinely don’t give a damn about Starmer’s administrative error. Seems odd to accuse me of lying because I disagree with you. Perhaps I’m not pure enough to have the right to vote Labour ? Far better to keep it as an exclusive and small club I suppose. It was always like that when I was a member of the party as well. Which was the reason I didn’t renew.

Once again, you seem to have an understanding shortfall. All of us, including you, have prejudices and your comments come across as sanctimonious (not lies) when you seem to try and seize some 'impartial high ground' by claiming you don't care about something when you obviously do!

This has absolutely nothing to do with 'lying', 'purity' or 'rights' - that is just hyperbolic (self pitying?) nonsense that undermines your argument still further ....