Shocking new Stephen Lawrence evidence

[Dick Knights Mumm]

It is fact !!

If thre was anything the Met would have let this information out to friendly journalists long ago.

 

[Rougvie]

You have completely missed the point of this thread. What is being claimed by the documentary is that much of the 'evidence' that was there and might have been used to get a conviction was either destroyed, ignored or covered up by a corrupt police officer. The system failed to test the evidence properly in front of the jury. What was left after this wanker of a policeman had finished with it wouldn't have convicted Hitler.

But where is all the evidence of this, and is it going to come out tonight ?

I read a press release for the programme this morning and it looks like its just yet another hour of hearsay and unsubstantiated stuff.

Sorry, I am on no ones side, but there is so many urban myths surrounding the Lawrence case that justice will never be done.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

From the McPherson Enquiry:

Stephen Lawrence was only 18 years old when he was murdered. He was happy and, as Doreen Lawrence told us, very bright. He wanted to be an architect. He was healthy and athletic, and he was much loved.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Michael Mansfield last night said he thought that the five suspects would one day be convicted. I hope he's right but it does depend on NEW evidence coming to light. The double jeopardy law was changed largely as a result of this miscarriage of justice, now there needs to be new evidence. There are people who saw what happened or have vital information. That's what needed if any new evidence is to arise.
What's depressing is that it took a BBC journalist just a few months to prove the Police were corrupt during the orginal investigation. It makes you think what the hell have the Met been doing for over a decade! The Police have done nothing about that corrpution for years and years. What it also shows is there has to be the WILL to find out what really happened and so far, to their ever lasting shame, the Met have failed.

 

[London Calling]

I like the way one of them said "he threw a cup at the off duty black officer" in a moment of madness following 9 years of persecution.

I assume the breaking into the pub was also a moment of madness.These people are really poor quality criminals.

 

[London Calling]

As far as I can recall. The Met originlly "failed" to find any evidence againgst these five men.

The Daliy Mail did a real scoop. They had been informed that's there was loads of evidence againgst them. The Mail wanted to target the Black reader. They had the story they needed and bingo the pictures of the 5 were posted on the front ogf the Daily Mail, who then used all of its skill to embarrass the POlice and get a retrail.

Everyone except the Lawrences and the Police was a winner.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

As far as I can recall. The Met originlly failed to find any evidence againgst these five men.

Failed to look for any evidence is closer to the truth. Despite being told on the night who the murderers were. They watched later while at least one of the murderers took out bin bags (could have been rubbish) and drove off with them.

 

[somerset]

Nice blokes those 5 , hurling fists, laughing and spitting in the faces of the mainly Black people outside the court, makes yer proud to be British

same as those lovely 'heavies' from the Nation of Islam who did the same outside several of the court hearings and public meetings.

(note: not condoning either of course,.... sit down L.I.)

 

[looney]

Old news

What I had heard years ago from people I know. Was that one of the killers is related to the Richardson gang in South london.

Theyve nobbled a few cops to get off and the killing was drug dealers slaying a rival on their patch.

It wasn't any type of "institutional racism"

Everything I have heard since has confirmed this.

 

[readingstockport]

2 things.

1 looney, as usual you spout your deranged bnp influenced bollocks. There is no evidence anywhere outside of deranged bnp propaganda that Stephen was a drug dealer. None at all.

2. not sure if anyone has mentioned this but only 2 of the 5 were accquited at the private prosecution. The other 3 had charges dropped before it came to court and so could possibly be charged if 'new' evidence came to light.

 

[looney]

Oh and let me add they are racists and scumbags but neither of those are a crime.

Just before some dick decides I'm siding for those scummy little shits.

 

[looney]

2 things.

1 looney, as usual you spout your deranged bnp influenced bollocks. There is no evidence anywhere outside of deranged bnp propaganda that Stephen was a drug dealer. None at all.

2. not sure if anyone has mentioned this but only 2 of the 5 were accquited at the private prosecution. The other 3 had charges dropped before it came to court and so could possibly be charged if 'new' evidence came to light.

Listen shit for brains, my sources are independant of each other. Both Grew up in the East end, neither were "connected" with the mob but moved in the same circles as it was their turf.

Yea and I know the Richardsons are south london but word gets about as I said.

This has nothing to do with your delusional spastic fantacies that I am a fanboi for the bnp because you fear intelligent debate.

One of them is my brothers father in law. pm me and I'll see if I can give you their contact details and you can chat with them if you like you wanker.

 

[readingstockport]

And I know people from Eltham. And they say what you are saying is bollocks, put about by the kind of low-life scum from which these 5 sprang and whom have spent the last 13 years protecting them. And most of them are bnp supporters and fellow right wing crypto-facist travellers.

 

[fataddick]

Nipping the bollocks in the bud...

I know many people from Eltham/Well Hall including several who knew (and went to school with) some of the people involved in this case. The area is a central part of the Charlton fans catchment area (our training ground is just down the road) so most Charlton fans are aware of what actually happened.

Stephen Lawrence was not a drug dealer with £20k drug money in his bank account who wandered round raping white girls, etc. That is basic Nazi-style propaganda spread by the BNP, and is one of the things that got Nick Griffin charged with incitement to racial hatred. It's basically crap that he would spout in his speaches to try and inflame the BNP's simpleton chav cannon fodder. His other claim was the even more laughable assertion that no white people were involved and Stephen was killed by a "rival Negro gang" (the BNP's words, not mine).

In actual fact, Stephen Lawrence was simply in the wrong place with the wrong person. Two gangs of lads - one white, one black - were involved in selling drugs in pubs in the area. There was rivalry between them, some of which was racially driven (it's a nasty racist area - one of the reasons the BNP has its national headquarters in the area).

The person Stephen Lawrence was with was associated with the black drugs gang, Stephen himself wasn't. When the white drugs gang spotted him, they ran towards the pair. The person Stephen was with, recognising the rival firm, did a runner. Stephen, not having a clue what was going on (as he wasn't part of that drug dealing scene) stood there looking confused. And was stabbed to death.

So yes drug dealing was an issue, but no, the victim himself was not in any way involved in it.

Most people suspect that any shock new evidence is not going to relate to the suspects themselves, but to a bent copper who was taking bribes from the dealers both before and after the incident, and is believed by most people in the local area to have been responsible for suppressing and tainting vital evidence in this case.

 

[Brovion]

Thankyou fataddick. Hopefully people like The Wookie are now deeply ashamed of themselves. Even better he'll hopefully go and beat the crap out of the BNP supporters who spread the lies in the first place.

 

[readingstockport]

Thanks fataddick. Similar to what I had heard as well.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

What Brovian said.

Have a little respect for the bloke. And let's hope there will at some point be some justice.

 

[looney]

Re: Nipping the bollocks in the bud...

I know many people from Eltham/Well Hall including several who knew (and went to school with) some of the people involved in this case. The area is a central part of the Charlton fans catchment area (our training ground is just down the road) so most Charlton fans are aware of what actually happened.

Stephen Lawrence was not a drug dealer with £20k drug money in his bank account who wandered round raping white girls, etc. That is basic Nazi-style propaganda spread by the BNP, and is one of the things that got Nick Griffin charged with incitement to racial hatred. It's basically crap that he would spout in his speaches to try and inflame the BNP's simpleton chav cannon fodder. His other claim was the even more laughable assertion that no white people were involved and Stephen was killed by a "rival Negro gang" (the BNP's words, not mine).

In actual fact, Stephen Lawrence was simply in the wrong place with the wrong person. Two gangs of lads - one white, one black - were involved in selling drugs in pubs in the area. There was rivalry between them, some of which was racially driven (it's a nasty racist area - one of the reasons the BNP has its national headquarters in the area).

The person Stephen Lawrence was with was associated with the black drugs gang, Stephen himself wasn't. When the white drugs gang spotted him, they ran towards the pair. The person Stephen was with, recognising the rival firm, did a runner. Stephen, not having a clue what was going on (as he wasn't part of that drug dealing scene) stood there looking confused. And was stabbed to death.

So yes drug dealing was an issue, but no, the victim himself was not in any way involved in it.

Most people suspect that any shock new evidence is not going to relate to the suspects themselves, but to a bent copper who was taking bribes from the dealers both before and after the incident, and is believed by most people in the local area to have been responsible for suppressing and tainting vital evidence in this case.

That really isn't much different to what I said apart from being an associate of a drug dealer than an actual drug dealer.

Still in time most the truth will come out.

 

[The Large One]

Re: Re: Nipping the bollocks in the bud...

That really isn't much different to what I said apart from being an associate of a drug dealer than an actual drug dealer.

Still in time most the truth will come out.

No, you spouted some tittle-tattle about the Richardson gang - a gang split up over 30 years ago. The insitutional racism was on the part of the police. Drug dealers don't have an institution, so how can it be institutional racism?

There's a MASSIVE difference between being a drug dealer and knowing a drug dealer. A marketing man runs your favourite football club - does that make you a media whore by default?

 

[Southy]

Re: Re: Re: Nipping the bollocks in the bud...

No, you spouted some tittle-tattle about the Richardson gang - a gang split up over 30 years ago. The insitutional racism was on the part of the police. Drug dealers don't have an institution, so how can it be institutional racism?

There's a MASSIVE difference between being a drug dealer and knowing a drug dealer. A marketing man runs your favourite football club - does that make you a media whore by default?

Well said TLO.

Btw are you quoting Jeremy Clarkson in your sig?
If so, why?