Shocking new Stephen Lawrence evidence

[clapham_gull]

Well unless I'm mistaken this story was around 6 years ago.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lawrence/Story/0,,406266,00.html#article_continue

 

[sir danny cullip]

Very true, you would be a good lawyer. I don't see how they can ever turn back the clocks and bring these men to justice. I have no doubt in my mind that they are the killers.

Wouldn't mind being the Lawrence family lawyer!!

I dont think many people do but contradicting statements dont prove anything they just fuel speculation. The police needed DNA evidence from clothes or the knife which it seems were disposed of either in that black sack or during the few days after the attack. Im afraid Mrs Lawrence is fighting a battle she cant win unless some new evidence is found which is highly unlikely.

I did wonder why the BBC allowed the main witness to the attack to call the alleged murderers "white boys", I'm sure a stink would have been kicked up if a white witness called a group of black people "black boys" on national tv.

 

[DJ Leon]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Nipping the bollocks in the bud...

The Richardsons are still going strong.

That is FACT.

Really? Are they in the 'racially motivated stabbing black youths whilst other (obviously) not involved racist gangs of knife-wielding hooligans are seen running from the scene whilst 3/4 of their town fingers them for the crime' game as Looney suggests?

I hear it's very lucrative.

 

[clapham_gull]

I did wonder why the BBC allowed the main witness to the attack to call the alleged murderers "white boys", I'm sure a stink would have been kicked up if a white witness called a group of black people "black boys" on national tv. [/B]

I'm not sure to be honest. The police always state a suspects colour when describing them.

Referring someone as black or white isn't racist, merely stating the facts.

 

[sir danny cullip]

I'm not sure to be honest. The police always state a suspects colour when describing them.

Referring someone as black or white isn't racist, merely stating the facts.

O no not racist but a little to the right of the BBC's overly politically correct stance these days wouldn't you say? I doubt many people were offended but wouldn't be suprised if its mentioned on the BNP website tomorrow.

 

[DJ Leon]

Wouldn't mind being the Lawrence family lawyer!!

I dont think many people do but contradicting statements dont prove anything they just fuel speculation. The police needed DNA evidence from clothes or the knife which it seems were disposed of either in that black sack or during the few days after the attack. Im afraid Mrs Lawrence is fighting a battle she cant win unless some new evidence is found which is highly unlikely.

I did wonder why the BBC allowed the main witness to the attack to call the alleged murderers "white boys", I'm sure a stink would have been kicked up if a white witness called a group of black people "black boys" on national tv.

It's a fairly normal thing to say in the context of a racially motivated attack.

If you were attacked by a gang of black youths who clearly only picked on you for your colour ,would you not mention or describe them as black to either the police or indeed anyone else? Or is that unimportant information?

 

[sir danny cullip]

It's a fairly normal thing to say in the context of a racially motivated attack.

If you were attacked by a gang of black youths who clearly only picked on you for your colour ,would you not mention or describe them as black to either the police or indeed anyone else? Or is that unimportant information?

Usually the term "white/black youths" is used. Just suprised me that the BBC aired it when usually they are so careful to cover their backs against that type of thing. The whole "white boys" thing just seemed a little informal to me, just picked up on itnot overly bothered tbh.

 

[DJ Leon]

Usually the term "white/black youths" is used. Just suprised me that the BBC aired it when usually they are so careful to cover their backs against that type of thing. The whole "white boys" thing just seemed a little informal to me, just picked up on itnot overly bothered tbh.

Fair enough. I can't see anything remotely controversial about it though.

 

[clapham_gull]

Sorry we'll have to disagree, I can't see an editor at the BBC would feel pressured to edit a statement saying that a group of men the police were after were black.

It fact its usually the over way round. They tend not to bother mentioning a suspect as being white.

Except in the case of a racially motivated case.

Living in London (with a bigger black population) and watching the BBC news I don't recall them having a problem with mentioning a suspects colour (if not white).. ever.

 

[sir danny cullip]

Sorry we'll have to disagree, I can't see an editor at the BBC would feel pressured to edit a statement saying that a group of men the police were after were black.

It fact its usually the over way round. They tend not to bother mentioning a suspect as being white.

Living in London (with a bigger black population) and watching the BBC news I don't recall them having a problem with mentioning a suspects colour (if not white).. ever.

.. and why should they ?

Dont get me wrong I'm not saying they should in fact I think its obsurd but the fact is they are so politically correct these days it just really suprised me when I heard it. The "white boys" or "black boys" reference just seems a little informal to me for someone being interviewed in relation to the murder of their best mate.

 

[Roger Mellie]

I am a lawyer and acted for one of the witnesses in this case. He went on breakfast TV disguised within days of the murder saying he knew who it was (after the police started to f*** up). When McPherson or rather that idiot Paul Boateng published the report they 'accidently' published the addresses of all the witnesses. There needs to be new evidence for a retrial. Publishing the addresses of witnesses means they have now been got at by Norris and co. If you read the McPherson report the incompetence of the police is almost unbelievable. Everybody believed it was bent at the time an this documentary adds nothing. It was bent. The publishing of the witnesses names and addresses always added an almost surreal edge to it. Could they have got at McPherson as well (or more likely people involved in his investigation) and made sure any appeal in the future was doomed

 

[glasfryn]

I would just like to say,we were not surprised by any of this and we hope it re-opens the case.

 

[Richard Whiteley]

Listen shit for brains, my sources are independant of each other. Both Grew up in the East end, neither were "connected" with the mob but moved in the same circles as it was their turf.

Yea and I know the Richardsons are south london but word gets about as I said.

This has nothing to do with your delusional spastic fantacies that I am a fanboi for the bnp because you fear intelligent debate.

One of them is my brothers father in law. pm me and I'll see if I can give you their contact details and you can chat with them if you like you wanker.

this was such an adult thread until you turned up wasn't it?

 

[Lord Bracknell]

One of my memories from our time at the Priestfield is travelling from Victoria to Gillingham on a crowded train. Who should get into our carriage and sit immediately opposite the younger members of the Bracknell posse, but Neville Lawrence and his lawyer?

It was a privilege to be able to listen into their conversation (which was mainly about minor domestic problems that the Lawrences had been enduring for some time). One thing I remember is that Neville Lawrence made the point that his family had experienced relatively little racism in their daily lives. He seemed to be a genuinely nice guy.

 

[eastlondonseagull]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Nipping the bollocks in the bud...

The Richardsons are still going strong.

That is FACT.

Absolutely. A solicitor friend of mine has had dealings with people on the receiving end of their clan on many occasions.

 

[eastlondonseagull]

Reading (our office copy of) the Daily Mail this morning, it would seem that half the gang allegedly involved are knocking about my neck of the woods these days (Plumstead / Woolwich), so I'll keep an eye out for them. There's still a hell of a lot of racism around in the area, sadly

 

[eastlondonseagull]

I am a lawyer and acted for one of the witnesses in this case. He went on breakfast TV disguised within days of the murder saying he knew who it was (after the police started to f*** up). When McPherson or rather that idiot Paul Boateng published the report they 'accidently' published the addresses of all the witnesses. There needs to be new evidence for a retrial. Publishing the addresses of witnesses means they have now been got at by Norris and co.

FFS

 

[looney]

Looney, I am curious as to how an upstanding citizen (Scout Leader) moves in the sort of cicles that hears gossip about "institutional racism".

Ex-scoutleader for the f***ing umpteenth time. It wasn't gossip about institutional racism its from a couple of people I know one an old friend and another my brothers father in law.


You'd be f***ing suprised who I know.

 

[Dave the OAP]

I sat and watched it all last night, and I have not trawled through this thread, however, at the end of the program, I was not exactly enthused by this so called "new evidence"

I am no lawyer, but I would have thought it would be nigh on impossible to put any of the stuff raised on there in front of the CPS let alone a Jury and get a conviction.


It all seemed pretty tenuous to me.

 

[Tooting Gull]

Ex-scoutleader for the f***ing umpteenth time. It wasn't gossip about institutional racism its from a couple of people I know one an old friend and another my brothers father in law.


You'd be f***ing suprised who I know.

Surprised - possibly. As impressed as you are clearly are to have met some 'real gangsters' - definitely not.

The experience has obviously turned your head a bit. Did you go all moist? Prick.