[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[Eric the meek]

These monetary economists have got no common sense. Mark, PUT A HAT ON, and save 25% of your heat loss.

TLDR: If, (if) the central bank is going to freeze, or partially freeze, people's assets, that is a red alert. He says the information is coming out of Russia from non-official sources. Prediction is June or July.

 

[GoldstoneVintage]

These monetary economists have got no common sense. Mark, PUT A HAT ON, and save 25% of your heat loss.

TLDR: If, (if) the central bank is going to freeze, or partially freeze, people's assets, that is a red alert. He says the information is coming out of Russia from non-official sources. Prediction is June or July.

Here's hoping!

 

[Sirnormangall]

Steve Rosenberg’s daily review of Russian newspapers (YouTube) is interesting again today. Interview with Patruschev saying that Ukraine and Moldova will soon cease to exist and that Russia won’t negotiate with anyone except USA. They won’t negotiate with Brussels because it doesn’t represent the views of European states who want a more balanced real with Russia

 

[raymondo]

Steve Rosenberg’s daily review of Russian newspapers (YouTube) is interesting again today. Interview with Patruschev saying that Ukraine and Moldova will soon cease to exist and that Russia won’t negotiate with anyone except USA. They won’t negotiate with Brussels because it doesn’t represent the views of European states who want a more balanced real with Russia

I hope they also have to negotiate with the country in Europe that has the most experienced military, and that knows the Russians best...i.e. Ukraine.

 

[fly high]

Steve Rosenberg’s daily review of Russian newspapers (YouTube) is interesting again today. Interview with Patruschev saying that Ukraine and Moldova will soon cease to exist and that Russia won’t negotiate with anyone except USA. They won’t negotiate with Brussels because it doesn’t represent the views of European states who want a more balanced real with Russia

What we, the EU, NATO or the US think is truly far less important than what Ukraine wants. If Russia really will only negotiate with the USA do they think Trump will give them what they want. Worrying.

 

[raymondo]

 

[Eric the meek]

What we, the EU, NATO or the US think is truly far less important than what Ukraine wants. If Russia really will only negotiate with the USA do they think Trump will give them what they want. Worrying.

This has been a theme throughout the war. They think the US calls the shots, with Ukraine following US orders, so any negotiations must be conducted with the US and not the country they are invading.

It may stem from their view of Ukraine being just another part of Russia, which they wouldn't stoop to negotiate with. They just don't see Ukraine as an independent, sovereign country, however arcane, out of date and deeply flawed this is to us.

If the aggressor is not prepared to negotiate with the country it has invaded, and wants to negotiate with someone else, this could be a challenge for any peace talks.

 

[Triggaaar]

Steve Rosenberg’s daily review of Russian newspapers (YouTube) is interesting again today. Interview with Patruschev saying that Ukraine and Moldova will soon cease to exist

Aren't they lovely.

and that Russia won’t negotiate with anyone except USA. They won’t negotiate with Brussels because it doesn’t represent the views of European states who want a more balanced real with Russia

The balance we wanted was fair play on all sides. That's not what Russia wants. If any country were to cease to exist, I'd prefer it to be Russia. It would be better for humanity.

 

[Sirnormangall]

But would it be worse for Russia if China weren't saving these companies? I'm concerned if China feel that they're invested in Russia and want to support it.

That’s my concern too. But it’s possible also that China simply sees a great opportunity to take advantage of a fire sale and secure fossil fuel sources and at far lower cost than it might otherwise have to pay