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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
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jakarta
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Exactly. As the world weans itself off hydrocarbons what else has Russia to offer?
When was the last time you bought a Russian Car or Laptop, or FFS anything Russian?
I suppose they could continue flogging arms to people if they thought they might get paid...
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
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Most of the Russian troops are there simply because its the job, the Ukrainians though are fighting for something they believe in. They have been incredibly brave in standing up and fighting as they have, true hero's.
Let's hope that the combination of world condemnation, sanctions, protests at home and the resilience of Ukraine leads to Putin being " removed "...
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Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
This would be decent.
But could well be made up and I'm not sure we really get nice things at the moment.
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But could well be made up and I'm not sure we really get nice things at the moment.
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Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
Thank Christ this attitude was absent in 1940
- Nov 11, 2009
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From the Daily Telegraph (behind paywall)
"Russian politicians break ranks with Kremlin to condemn invasion
Mikhail Matveyev, a member of the State Duma, says he "voted for peace, not a war" and calls on Moscow to halt the conflict
By
Nataliya Vasilyeva,
RUSSIA CORRESPONDENT, MOSCOW
26 February 2022 • 9:41am
Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is proving so unpopular that several Russian MPs are withdrawing their support for the Kremlin.
The State Duma, the lower house of Russian parliament, last week voted to recognise the independence of eastern Ukraine’s separatist regions. President Vladimir Putin signed the motion into law on Monday.
Two days later Russia’s upper house of parliament gave the green light to sending Russian troops "abroad". However, it was not clear until Thursday morning that Mr Putin had ordered a full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
Mikhail Matveyev, a member of the State Duma, on Saturday called on the Kremlin to stop the invasion.
"By voting to recognise the independence of the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics I voted for peace, not a war. For Russia to become a shield for the Donbass, not for bombing Kyiv," he said.
Another MP, Communist Oleg Smolin, said on Friday he was "shocked" by the invasion and was sorry for the loss of life.
Their statements came amid a myriad of anti-war petitions from Russian teachers, scientists and doctors.
Even some of the most Kremlin-friendly pundits began to publicly question the rationale behind Moscow unleashing a war on a sovereign nation.
Andrey Kortunov, director of the Russian International Affairs Council that advises the foreign ministry, told the BBC he had not advised Russians officials to launch an invasion and that many in the Russian government were shocked at the decision.
“I would say that many of us in the foreign office were surprised and I would say shocked and I would even say devastated to see what is happening,” he said.
“This is an important red line that was crossed by the Russian leadership and the repercussions are likely to be very significant."
Russia’s foreign ministry sought to punish some of the country’s most respected journalists for speaking out against the invasion.
Elena Chernenko, a veteran foreign affairs reporter for the Kommersant newspaper who often travelled with Sergey Lavrov, the foreign minister, said on Friday she was ejected from his pool for “unprofessionalism”."
"Russian politicians break ranks with Kremlin to condemn invasion
Mikhail Matveyev, a member of the State Duma, says he "voted for peace, not a war" and calls on Moscow to halt the conflict
By
Nataliya Vasilyeva,
RUSSIA CORRESPONDENT, MOSCOW
26 February 2022 • 9:41am
Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is proving so unpopular that several Russian MPs are withdrawing their support for the Kremlin.
The State Duma, the lower house of Russian parliament, last week voted to recognise the independence of eastern Ukraine’s separatist regions. President Vladimir Putin signed the motion into law on Monday.
Two days later Russia’s upper house of parliament gave the green light to sending Russian troops "abroad". However, it was not clear until Thursday morning that Mr Putin had ordered a full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
Mikhail Matveyev, a member of the State Duma, on Saturday called on the Kremlin to stop the invasion.
"By voting to recognise the independence of the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics I voted for peace, not a war. For Russia to become a shield for the Donbass, not for bombing Kyiv," he said.
Another MP, Communist Oleg Smolin, said on Friday he was "shocked" by the invasion and was sorry for the loss of life.
Their statements came amid a myriad of anti-war petitions from Russian teachers, scientists and doctors.
Even some of the most Kremlin-friendly pundits began to publicly question the rationale behind Moscow unleashing a war on a sovereign nation.
Andrey Kortunov, director of the Russian International Affairs Council that advises the foreign ministry, told the BBC he had not advised Russians officials to launch an invasion and that many in the Russian government were shocked at the decision.
“I would say that many of us in the foreign office were surprised and I would say shocked and I would even say devastated to see what is happening,” he said.
“This is an important red line that was crossed by the Russian leadership and the repercussions are likely to be very significant."
Russia’s foreign ministry sought to punish some of the country’s most respected journalists for speaking out against the invasion.
Elena Chernenko, a veteran foreign affairs reporter for the Kommersant newspaper who often travelled with Sergey Lavrov, the foreign minister, said on Friday she was ejected from his pool for “unprofessionalism”."
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
The situation in 1940 was vastly different with very different leaders. Very disingenuous of you to comment like that.
portslade seagull
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Neville's Breakfast
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Yep, selfish wankerism ? To coin a phrase.
BN41Albion
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- Oct 1, 2017
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Don't know where you knock about but my experience here, like anywhere, is that the majority of people are decent, friendly folk. Every country has its fair share of oiks ffs
- Nov 11, 2009
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Wow if true BV, would also make sense to suggest Kharkiv will fall first, as thats where the thermobaric bombs are going
No it isn't. People fought for their families, towns & communities etc. Not the political party that wa in control at the time.
- Nov 11, 2009
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England, France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Holland, Belgium, Germany statements
Russia will be OUT
Creaky
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I had no idea what we imported from Russia and decide to take a look - quite enlightening - no more barbecues
- Nov 11, 2009
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Wrong-Direction
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- Mar 10, 2013
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You'll be relying on those over 30 then, I don't think the YouTubers and influencers of today will be much use on the front line
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jakarta
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I had no idea what we imported from Russia and decide to take a look - quite enlightening - no more barbecues
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19 Billion dollars worth of 'pearls and metals'? Allow me to say bullshit... They are a mafia based hydrocarbon economy.
British Bulldog
The great escape
- Feb 6, 2006
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so you would sit back and watch every body else fight but you wouldn't? Selfish w@anker.