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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
- Thread starter vegster
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Here's a fire at a hostel in Moscow. One of the comments suggests it might be an FSB effort at a false flag operation.
There is also new activity in Crimea, including another fire. No other details were given.
There is also new activity in Crimea, including another fire. No other details were given.
What’s the betting if it was FSB they made sure a few of their targets were in there when it “accidentally” caught fire
Orban on steroids again. I wonder if he'll ask Putin for help to 'protect' the rights of 'historical Hungarians '.
www.pravda.com.ua
Hungarian PM’s office demands recognition of all of Ukraine’s Zakarpattia as “traditionally Hungarian”
Among the 11 demands of Hungary regarding the protection of the rights of national minorities, a key stumbling block is the designation of areas in Ukraine with a special level of guarantees for the rights of Hungarians. In particular, this refers to the country’s westernmost Zakarpattia Oblast...
www.pravda.com.ua
Sirnormangall
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Orban is no doubt hoping to be rewarded with that land, if Putin wins, for being his lap dogOrban on steroids again. I wonder if he'll ask Putin for help to 'protect' the rights of 'historical Hungarians '.
Hungarian PM’s office demands recognition of all of Ukraine’s Zakarpattia as “traditionally Hungarian”
Among the 11 demands of Hungary regarding the protection of the rights of national minorities, a key stumbling block is the designation of areas in Ukraine with a special level of guarantees for the rights of Hungarians. In particular, this refers to the country’s westernmost Zakarpattia Oblast...
- Aug 24, 2020
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Remember a few weeks ago, there was some talk of a proposal from Russia for a ceasefire and 'referenda' in the occupied territories?
Well, I've just stumbled across this article from 8 June. Simonyan says 'it's time to talk' as Ukraine is too strong.
It suggests that there may be a difference of opinion on how to proceed within the Kremlin.
www.telegraph.co.uk
Well, I've just stumbled across this article from 8 June. Simonyan says 'it's time to talk' as Ukraine is too strong.
It suggests that there may be a difference of opinion on how to proceed within the Kremlin.
Putin should freeze war as Ukraine 'too strong', says top Russian propagandist
Zelensky's access to Nato-supplied weaponry means halting hostilities while referenda are held would be ‘best case scenario for Russia’
www.telegraph.co.uk
vegster
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There can't be differences of opinion within the Kremlin, not for long anyway.Remember a few weeks ago, there was some talk of a proposal from Russia for a ceasefire and 'referenda' in the occupied territories?
Well, I've just stumbled across this article from 8 June. Simonyan says 'it's time to talk' as Ukraine is too strong.
It suggests that there may be a difference of opinion on how to proceed within the Kremlin.
Putin should freeze war as Ukraine 'too strong', says top Russian propagandist
Zelensky's access to Nato-supplied weaponry means halting hostilities while referenda are held would be ‘best case scenario for Russia’
Hilarious
These morons will be hanging from a lamppost in 12 months time
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That's the received wisdom isn't it? Perhaps it is one of those things that remains true until it isn't.
I always assumed that her boss is Putin. Maybe he is. Maybe he is flying a kite; assessing the public reaction to a major change in direction.
Or maybe someone else is her boss. Or perhaps it is just a bit of maskirovka. Who knows until the bones emerge from the sack?
Hilarious
From your tweet: She said that ... a "huge number of people under the oppression of liberal democracies are trying to resist it."
Tell me about it, every day I'm queuing at the Russian embassy, begging to get out of this liberal democracy. "No" they say, "No you can't come to Mother Russia, we are full", but I keep going back every day in the hope that one day I too can be free of freedom.
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Hilarious
I thought it was the other way round which is why they upped the border guards to catch those trying to run away.
- Aug 24, 2020
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Hilarious
I know the football has just started, but can anyone rationalise this Russian behaviour at senior government level?
No no the border guards are ready with the same 'welcome home ' they expected in Kyiv on day 3.
- Aug 24, 2020
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Lots of weird things coming out of Russia at the moment.
Here is Simonyan's husband, telling us there will be a larger war with the west. But before it happens, Russia needs to make sure Ukraine is friendly towards it, and that Russia and Ukraine are on the same side.........
I assume it's some kind of threat, but the Russian establishment don't make it easy to understand what they really mean. Perhaps they do it on purpose.
Here is Simonyan's husband, telling us there will be a larger war with the west. But before it happens, Russia needs to make sure Ukraine is friendly towards it, and that Russia and Ukraine are on the same side.........
I assume it's some kind of threat, but the Russian establishment don't make it easy to understand what they really mean. Perhaps they do it on purpose.
I guess intentionally vague to keep open all options on future announcements... I'm not sure how they're going to ensure Ukraine is friendly toward Russia - could take a while, eh?
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If you're looking for a bit of detail on China-Russia relations, read this from Renaud Foucart, Senior Economics Lecturer, Lancaster University:
https://theconversation.com/russia-...-could-order-the-end-of-war-in-ukraine-232951
https://theconversation.com/russia-...-could-order-the-end-of-war-in-ukraine-232951
Ukraine needs to be smarter than Russia
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davida...line-a-russian-missile-destroyed-two-of-them/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davida...line-a-russian-missile-destroyed-two-of-them/
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If true, that is unforgivable on the part of the Ukrainians.
If deliberate, perhaps to draw fire, or the planes were decoys or due to be scrapped etc, then it is understandable.
Exactly. If it's true, then they need to look after donated F16s a lot better.