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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
- Thread starter vegster
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- Aug 24, 2020
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It's a good sign when Russian officials can't get their story right. It means there are fractures in the command and control structure.
Russia pins Dagestan attack on Ukraine and the West, ignoring religious tension
Despite years of Islamist attacks in Dagestan, Moscow wants to blame external actors for Sunday's attack.
www.bbc.co.uk
An excellent piece from Rosenberg, still balancing on his high-wireIt's a good sign when Russian officials can't get their story right. It means there are fractures in the command and control structure.
Russia pins Dagestan attack on Ukraine and the West, ignoring religious tension
Despite years of Islamist attacks in Dagestan, Moscow wants to blame external actors for Sunday's attack.www.bbc.co.uk
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I always liked Hypnodisc
I hope that means we get the fragrant Philippa Forrester in some tight leather trousers again like last time
Sirnormangall
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If true I’d have thought it’s significant. I assumed that Serbia had continued to maintain reasonably close ties with Russia, albeit covertly. I know that Serbia (perhaps surprisingly) supported the UN resolution that condemned the Russian invasion, but supplying arms to Ukraine takes it to a different level. Probably signals Serbia’s desire to join the EU?I haven't been able to research the truth of Serbia selling shells to Ukraine, but... let's hope it's true
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In other news today I see that ICC has issued arrest warrants for Shoigu and Gerisimov. Oh and the Russian ambassador to the UN has strongly condemned the recent ‘US aided’ bombing of Sevastopol - perhaps they should leave Crimea to avoid similar events
Yes, quite possibly their EU candidacy.
All European countries, plus US, should have called in their Russian ambassadors daily for what they did in Mariupol, Bucha ...
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But Russia says that was stage managed by Ukraine using actors, nothing to do with them.
Ah yes, I forgot that!
A question from a US Defense Department briefing. There was confirmation that North Korea announced they would be sending military 'engineers' to Donetsk region at Russia's request. Here's hoping they all die.
"A quick follow-up – North Korea's Central Military Commission announced that North Korea would join forces with the Russian military. And as part of the North Korea and Russia military alliance, the North Korean Army engineer unit would be dispatched to Donetsk, Ukraine, which remains occupied by Russia. It will be dispatched as early as next month. How do you assess about the rapid situation in which North Korea and Russia are moving toward Ukraine?"
"A quick follow-up – North Korea's Central Military Commission announced that North Korea would join forces with the Russian military. And as part of the North Korea and Russia military alliance, the North Korean Army engineer unit would be dispatched to Donetsk, Ukraine, which remains occupied by Russia. It will be dispatched as early as next month. How do you assess about the rapid situation in which North Korea and Russia are moving toward Ukraine?"
- Aug 24, 2020
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First, it tells me that Ukraine is winning! Whatever Ukraine is doing, keep doing it.
Second, it tells me that Russia is scraping the barrel. Desperate, beyond a level that perhaps anyone had realised. Is Russia out of troops, missiles or both?
I'm not sure what 'military engineers' means, and I'm not sure that North Korean military engineers are going to be an asset to Russia. Perhaps they are going there to learn from Russia, in which case it is something to worry about..
Third, I'm wondering what the implications are for China-Russia relations? I've heard that the Chinese are upset with the result of Russia and North Korea alliance, with South Korea getting even more concerned than usual about N. Korea. This is not in China's interests.
There is a lot to consider, but I wouldn't necessarily assess the news as bad news...
Definitely. It's a mix. may be partly propaganda, to 'frighten' both the west and South Korea. Worth keeping an eye out for though.
NATO should send troops in to fight against North Korea.
- Aug 7, 2003
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Can see mass defections by North Koreans into Ukraine.
That would be too funny.
- Aug 24, 2020
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Once they get a sniff of three square meals a day, there'll be no stopping them.
From the Guardian. I'm surprised to read that Russia had any Human Rights Reps to send to the meeting.
"Representatives of Russia’s and Ukraine’s human rights offices held a meeting for the first time during an exchange of prisoners of war on Tuesday, Kyiv said. The two countries each released 90 captured soldiers in a deal brokered by the United Arab Emirates, the latest in more than 50 prisoner exchanges that have taken place throughout the war. But it was the first time Russia had agreed to hold a direct meeting between human rights representatives during the exchange, Ukraine’s human rights commissioner Dmytro Lubinets told AFP."
"Representatives of Russia’s and Ukraine’s human rights offices held a meeting for the first time during an exchange of prisoners of war on Tuesday, Kyiv said. The two countries each released 90 captured soldiers in a deal brokered by the United Arab Emirates, the latest in more than 50 prisoner exchanges that have taken place throughout the war. But it was the first time Russia had agreed to hold a direct meeting between human rights representatives during the exchange, Ukraine’s human rights commissioner Dmytro Lubinets told AFP."