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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)









Eric the meek

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Aug 24, 2020
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One for the drone fans.

'Drones currently kill more soldiers from both sides than anything else'
'We used to reserve our FPV drones for armoured vehicles. Now we can afford to send out three to chase down one Russian soldier'.

 




















Zeberdi

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Oct 20, 2022
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Bad news in the East. And it's estimated Russia fires 100 glide bombs daily across the front line ☹️. Some good news is needed.
BBC News - Russians simply walked in, Ukraine troops in Kharkiv tell BBC - BBC News
Compare today’s news with Friday’s news, the US seems to be working on different timescales to the reality in Ukraine - political or intelligence failure? A bit of both maybe? There is literally no sense of the scale of urgency in Ukraine’s situation in the statement from the White House:

“It is possible that Russia will make further advances in the coming weeks, but we do not anticipate any major breakthroughs,” Kirby said. “And over time, the influx of U.S. assistance will enable Ukraine to withstand these attacks over the course of 2024.”

 




raymondo

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Compare today’s news with Friday’s news, the US seems to be working on different timescales to the reality in Ukraine - political or intelligence failure? A bit of both maybe? There is literally no sense of the scale of urgency in Ukraine’s situation in the statement from the White House:

“It is possible that Russia will make further advances in the coming weeks, but we do not anticipate any major breakthroughs,” Kirby said. “And over time, the influx of U.S. assistance will enable Ukraine to withstand these attacks over the course of 2024.”

Yes, @Zeberdi , it often feels political to me. Drip feed Ukraine; let Russia make small inroads and lose some troops and hardware; supply more to Ukraine so they can fight back...
The problem of course is that Ukraine is on the back foot along much of the front line and has very limited resources ... especially troop numbers.
 




Binney on acid

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I’m in Budapest on holiday. I was disappointed by the lack of Ukrainian flags on display, but this afternoon there was a march attended by loads of Ukrainian people, dressed in national costume. They gathered outside St Stephen’s Basilica, and played their traditional music, sang and listened to pro Ukrainian speeches. Slava Ukraini !
 
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A1X

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I’m in Budapest on holiday. I was disappointed by the lack of Ukrainian flags on display, but this afternoon there was a march attended by loads of Ukrainian people, dressed in national costume. They gathered outside St Stephen’s Basilica, and played their traditional music, sang and listened to pro Ukrainian speeches. Slave Ukraini !
Orban’s backyard innit, loves Putin (and his cash) so probably arrests anyone with a Ukrainian flag
 
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Eric the meek

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Aug 24, 2020
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Now on BBC. Leaky defence I imagine, and a number of own goals 😉.
This is one of those moments when idle speculation is thoroughly enjoyable, as any or all theories could easily be true.

Leaky defence? Check.
Own goals, most recently Belgorod? The timing fits nicely, doesn't it?
Shoigu's deputy Ivanov recently accused of taking bribes? Oh no, surely not this one. Taking bribes is compulsory in Russia.
 




beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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pretty obvious that replacing a military man with a economist is not going to help miltary strategy. either he's there for the whole country to a war economy, or someone who'll follow a more direct input from Putin. which doesn't usually go well. interesting to see analysis in the coming days, with speculation of what this means for Putin powerbase, how it plays out with others.
 


raymondo

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I’m in Budapest on holiday. I was disappointed by the lack of Ukrainian flags on display, but this afternoon there was a march attended by loads of Ukrainian people, dressed in national costume. They gathered outside St Stephen’s Basilica, and played their traditional music, sang and listened to pro Ukrainian speeches. Slava Ukraini !
Lovely city, hope you enjoyed the visit 👍
 


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