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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
- Thread starter vegster
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- Nov 11, 2009
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Just the beginning and first time, so precedent. There's over 300B seized
- Aug 24, 2020
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They may also be testing the Russian reaction.
papachris
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No hiding from Putin
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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More terrible news.
We need people like this to think there's a way out.
Questions need to be answered here. How did they find him? Did he have security? Wasn't there some sort of witness protection program?
Probably one of those nice wealthy Russians that bought a beachside apartment in Spain many years ago...armed sleepers.
- Aug 24, 2020
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I took note of the problem of centralised command and control that Russia suffers at the low level adaptation.
But as the video indicates, Russia has an advantage at the strategic level, e.g. to move the economy to a war economy. Putin is an autocrat, so can do what he likes, when he likes. There is no opposition for him to debate in the House of Commons, no House of Representatives to scupper any decisions, and no 26 other members of the EU to convince.
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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It was obviously an assassin.
Alarming that years after Skripal, Russian assassins can still apparently operate with impunity in Western Europe.
Arresting, charging and imprisoning (presumably) him, is an urgent priority. If he successfully slinks back off to Russia and turns up as am MP in years to come, what message does that say about the west. Putin is running rings around us!
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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The war in Ukraine is a skirmish the way I see it.
The real wars are coming later this century and it will be a battle between liberal democracy and autocracy for control of the world.
At the moment it looks a tight contest.
Shropshire Seagull
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I watched a TV programme last night. Documentary from a journalist inserted alongside the Russian army, close and right up to the front line. Poor bloke was scared out of his wits.
Highlighted (to me) that war is truly dreadful / horrific. But the mindset of the Russian soldiers was telling.
Anyone else see it?
Highlighted (to me) that war is truly dreadful / horrific. But the mindset of the Russian soldiers was telling.
Anyone else see it?
- Aug 24, 2020
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That's one possible future, and it is absolutely one scenario that we must prepare for.
The video above, and others, show the danger of complacency. Russia is on a war footing, and is producing weapons at a rate greater than the west is supplying to Ukraine and the rate of Ukrainian production combined.
Elon being a good boy for his masters in the Kremlin?
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I didn't catch it. BBC or it or...?
papachris
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I have a small holiday home in Torrevieja. There are a lot of Russians in the area and has been for many years.
Sure, I agree with you. But it's still possible that the assassin is a Russian (or another) that lives in Spain. We'll only know if the cctv etc is trackable, as it was for the Skripal attempt.
Personally, I wouldn't have let any Russians enter my country (from Russia) since the invasion.
Yes, a friend of mine has an apartment in that area and says the same.
Mate of mine currently on hols in Cyprus...lots of Russians there according to him.
dejavuatbtn
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1984, just 40 years late. It’s grim.