[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[Eric the meek]

Every morning when I wake up, I check my phone, to see who has posted what on here, and I find that Cunning Fergus has posted another polemic on the futility of facing up to Russia.

 

[marlowe]

I know it's obviously a very tricky situation for Macron, but I would love so much to see him (or anyone ffs!) pull him up in front of the press on the most blatant attempt at extortion anyone has ever seen. It's absolutely mental, yet absolutely no-one has properly questioned him on it yet - Macron just sat there while he again shamelessly talked about wanting the rare earth minerals etc. Absolutely infuriating!

Although not pulling up Trump on the rare earth deal directly Macron did however very strongly make the point that reparations should be paid by Russia and not Ukraine, while Trump sat there with his glum toad face.

Given Trump's thin skin and vindictiveness in response to anyone who disagrees with him Macron had to be very diplomatic as Ukraine might have borne the brunt of Trump's vindictiveness.

I thought Macron made his point very well because I think everyone knew what he was referring to without him having to actually say it.

 

[GoldstoneVintage]

You are General Melchett and I claim my £5.

Do I detect a Brighton Rock reference?

 

[GoldstoneVintage]

Every morning when I wake up, I check my phone, to see who has posted what on here, and I find that Cunning Fergus has posted another polemic on the futility of facing up to Russia.

That'll be the time difference. Russia are a few hours ahead of UK time.

 

[Eric the meek]

That'll be the time difference. Russia are a few hours ahead of UK time.

Is that why he doesn't post on here later in the day? Because he's back home from the bot farm and on the vodka?

We need a 'is Cunning Fergus a Russian' tracker, based on his posting times.

Calling @Giraffe

 

[WATFORD zero]

Is that why he doesn't post on here later in the day? Because he's back home from the bot farm and on the vodka?

We need a 'is Cunning Fergus a Russian' tracker, based on his posting times.

Calling @Giraffe

You would never, in a month of Sundays, guess what he REALLY spends the rest of his day doing having read his posts.

There's a few on here that know, and that's all I'm saying

 

[Triggaaar]

You used Vietnam as a comparison not me

Yes I did, and then you said that there would be more deaths because two armies are fighting across open terrain, but I've pointed out that Ukraine aren't fighting this like ww1, and Ukraine aren't suffering that many casualties.

the only real comparative metric for potential casualties is what is happening there now, and it’s involved tens of thousands on both sides. Yes, we agree Russia has taken many more.

Ukraine have 900,000 soldiers and are getting a couple of hundred casualties a month, 50 per week (including injured). If we had 30,000 soldiers, at the same rate we'd get less than 2 per week.

In the Falkland’s it’s 255 dead and 775 injured, so over 1000 casualties, predominantly naval personnel. If you want to ignore the injured numbers that’s fine, however an injury may well as be a death in terms of fighting capacity.

Yes but we weren't talking about fighting capacity, we were talking about the public's stomach for the war.

From what I can see Ukraine has suffered circa 70k dead and 250k injured, so circa 300k in total

Source?

 

[Eric the meek]

You would never, in a month of Sundays, guess what he REALLY spends the rest of his day doing having read his posts.

There's a few on here that know, and that's all I'm saying

Does he go and troll mumsnet? Strangle small furry animals? Torment roadkill that isn't quite dead yet?

Spill the beans. All we want is a clue. A sign. Anything. Please.....

 

[Eric the meek]

We've got it all wrong. We've misjudged Russians. Have a look at their community spirit with their fellow Russians:

 

[astralavi]

Putin offers to sell minerals to Trump, including from Russian-occupied Ukraine​

Putin offers to sell minerals to Trump, including from Russian-occupied Ukraine

The proposal comes as Kyiv and Washington negotiate a deal on critical minerals in Ukraine.

www.politico.eu

 

[portslade seagull]

You would never, in a month of Sundays, guess what he REALLY spends the rest of his day doing having read his posts.

There's a few on here that know, and that's all I'm saying

You tease, give us a clue

 

[portslade seagull]

Putin offers to sell minerals to Trump, including from Russian-occupied Ukraine​

Putin offers to sell minerals to Trump, including from Russian-occupied Ukraine

The proposal comes as Kyiv and Washington negotiate a deal on critical minerals in Ukraine.

www.politico.eu

That's nice of him, how thoughtful. Two thoroughly nice Physcopaths made for each other. Hopefully one day the lemmings will realise and push them over a cliff

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

Putin offers to sell minerals to Trump, including from Russian-occupied Ukraine​

Putin offers to sell minerals to Trump, including from Russian-occupied Ukraine

The proposal comes as Kyiv and Washington negotiate a deal on critical minerals in Ukraine.

www.politico.eu

He’s getting desperate is he not.

 

[Swegulls]

Too bad it's more about minerals than human suffering now.

 

[sully]

Putin offers to sell minerals to Trump, including from Russian-occupied Ukraine​

Putin offers to sell minerals to Trump, including from Russian-occupied Ukraine

The proposal comes as Kyiv and Washington negotiate a deal on critical minerals in Ukraine.

www.politico.eu

My concern with this is if Trump sees Europe protecting Ukraine from his attempted pillage, he’ll throw his weight fully behind Putin.
The European leaders need to keep him on board by letting him think he’s getting what he wants for as long as possible.

 

[sparkie]

You would never, in a month of Sundays, guess what he REALLY spends the rest of his day doing having read his posts.

There's a few on here that know, and that's all I'm saying

An assumption based on the replies to his hidden posts... works at the Russian Embassy in London ?

 

[Eric the meek]

He’s getting desperate is he not.

I think it's a move to attempt to keep the occupied territories.

If so, this might be good news, for it suggests that Russia thinks that keeping the occupied territories is not a foregone conclusion.

 

[raymondo]

Although not pulling up Trump on the rare earth deal directly Macron did however very strongly make the point that reparations should be paid by Russia and not Ukraine, while Trump sat there with his glum toad face.

Given Trump's thin skin and vindictiveness in response to anyone who disagrees with him Macron had to be very diplomatic as Ukraine might have borne the brunt of Trump's vindictiveness.

I thought Macron made his point very well because I think everyone knew what he was referring to without him having to actually say it.

I felt the same - Macron walked the tightrope as well as could be expected in a room full of Trump acolytes

 

[raymondo]

You would never, in a month of Sundays, guess what he REALLY spends the rest of his day doing having read his posts.

There's a few on here that know, and that's all I'm saying

Is he 'Admin' at the training ground

 

[raymondo]

My concern with this is if Trump sees Europe protecting Ukraine from his attempted pillage, he’ll throw his weight fully behind Putin.
The European leaders need to keep him on board by letting him think he’s getting what he wants for as long as possible.

It's crazy how far we've come...Europe needing to bend over backwards to keep Trump (President of the free world, lead country of NATO, our allies for decades) on board as long as possible. This is fxcking mental.