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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
- Thread starter vegster
- Start date
- Aug 24, 2020
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This is good, yes
Shows how much I know. I just assumed that Trump could lend-lease without it having to be in a new act.
Good news anyway.
Sirnormangall
Well-known member
- Sep 21, 2017
- 3,342
Wouldn’t it be wonderful if Turkey / NATO
Wouldn’t it be wonderful if Turkey / NATO shut the Bosporus to Russian naval traffic. I’m sure there’s some international law or something that prevents it but let’s get some balls and do it - Baltic Sea too.
Lend lease, huh? They've handed that out before - took us a life time (and a huge drain on the economy) paying that back - years and years! 60 in fact - finally escaped from the huge financial burden in 2006!
Ok as long as Ukraine get a fair deal on it
But maybe it's still an optional.avenue open for getting weaponry from the US. I think Ukraine needs all the options it can get.
Be a great deal, yeh. Ukraine in hock to the USA for most of the rest of the century. Good news in a way, but best of a bad job ultimately. Still, I expect Ukraine has some resources good ol' Uncle Sam will like.
If Ukraine don't get their country back and still end up paying for insufficient help, then it's a bad deal. If Ukraine get their country back, and they pay by allowing the West to mine a small fraction of their resources, then that's a good deal.
Better deal - and not much of a choice if they don't want to lose. Yes, not great, but admittedly rather better than the alternative I grant you!
Ideally, Russia should be beaten and then made to pay for it. Until that happens, it seems fair to me that Ukraine use their resources to pay for it, rather than the West having to pay. I don't want the West (or anyone else) to profit from it, but if the West don't have to be out of pocket, then this would seem a fair option.
There's something I don't understand here - well there are many things, but here's the new thing:
Lend -Lease Act: so, in the case that the US provides shells/missiles that are past their use by date (and therefore destined for decommissioning by the US,at their own cost)... I would hope that Ukraine at least gets them at a discounted cost (loan, whatever).
Anyone know
Lend -Lease Act: so, in the case that the US provides shells/missiles that are past their use by date (and therefore destined for decommissioning by the US,at their own cost)... I would hope that Ukraine at least gets them at a discounted cost (loan, whatever).
Anyone know
Just a reminder, not that anyone on this thread needs it, but some politicians around the world might.
The Russian state lies, lies, lies and lies. That's the only way they know. Peace negotiations
the only meaningful negotiation is to neuter them, economically and militarily.
The Russian state lies, lies, lies and lies. That's the only way they know. Peace negotiations
the only meaningful negotiation is to neuter them, economically and militarily.
- Aug 24, 2020
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Wouldn't they just raise the prices beforehand, in some obscure place like Ann Arbor, Michigan for a couple of days, to pretend they're giving a real discount, like Tesco?There's something I don't understand here - well there are many things, but here's the new thing:
Lend -Lease Act: so, in the case that the US provides shells/missiles that are past their use by date (and therefore destined for decommissioning by the US,at their own cost)... I would hope that Ukraine at least gets them at a discounted cost (loan, whatever).
Anyone know
Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
It’s always about money for Trump. There’s more money to made by supporting Ukraine than supporting Putin and a cease fire.
Have we seen this one already? ...they are so frequent 
kyivindependent.com
Ukraine strikes Russia's Saratov oil refinery, military confirms
"The refinery mainly produces gasoline, fuel oil, and diesel fuel. In total, more than 20 types of oil products (are being produced there)," the General Staff said.
kyivindependent.com
- Aug 24, 2020
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Move along. Nothing to see here.
Just incoming debris (which seems to have scored a direct hit).
Russians just can't admit that the 'little Russians' of Ukraine are successfully making an oily mess of Russia's economy.
Edit: 'Eternal flame' and 'High-precision debris' - good stuff
Just incoming debris (which seems to have scored a direct hit).
Russians just can't admit that the 'little Russians' of Ukraine are successfully making an oily mess of Russia's economy.
Edit: 'Eternal flame' and 'High-precision debris' - good stuff
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- Aug 24, 2020
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I hesitate to post this. Prepare to hold your heads in your hands.
fly high
Well-known member
Move along. Nothing to see here.
Just incoming debris (which seems to have scored a direct hit).
Russians just can't admit that the 'little Russians' of Ukraine are successfully making an oily mess of Russia's economy.
Edit: 'Eternal flame' and 'High-precision debris' - good stuff
All that from bits of debris!!!!!!!!!
fly high
Well-known member
FFS. Is this for real or Russian AI?