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narly101

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Feb 16, 2009
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I don't really like Russell Brand, but I can't condemn him for fighting for causes he believes in just because he's rich, even if that puts him in some seemingly hypocritical positions - hard to avoid, you would think. I don't have sympathy for the banker either - he doesn't seem to understand what RBS has done to the wider economy, and the three people I know who work for RBS all live in very, very expensive houses, despite being mere accountants - a job which should be well-paid (in my opinion - I am one :blush:), but not that well paid. The banker has written it very well though - not surprised it's reaching a wide audience. Find his attitude somewhat blinkered though. I'm a bit of a moaner, aren't I?

Missed the point entirely.
 






symyjym

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Nov 2, 2009
13,138
Brighton / Hove actually
The Party closest to Brands beliefs is the Green Party.

Why is he just encouraging people not to vote, when surely be should be encouraging people to vote Green?

For someone who is promoting change he is actually diluting the agenda and doing more harm than good.

His top priority was, is and always will be egomania , egomania, egomania.
 




Russell Brand has been doing some fantastic work over the last year or so. In particular I've been impressed with his efforts to change our failing drug policy, making a huge difference for working class people including firefighters and people in London who are losing their homes, and also creating awareness about other important issues, particularly inequality.

The support he gave the Focus E15 campaigners in particular impressed me - these are young working class people fighting a rotten Labour council.
 




The Party closest to Brands beliefs is the Green Party.

Why is he just encouraging people not to vote, when surely be should be encouraging people to vote Green?

For someone who is promoting change he is actually diluting the agenda and doing more harm than good.

His top priority was, is and always will be egomania , egomania, egomania.

Missing the point - he's not encouraging people not to vote, he's saying there is no one worth voting for that would make any difference to ordinary people's lives.

I don't necessarily agree with that but at the same time he's highlighting well the pathetic choice we are given each election.
 


Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
31,278
I gave up with that blog. For all the inconvenience it gave the blogger something to talk about to his friends and family and got him some publicity so big deal.

As for Russell Brand, I admire his energy. I don't always agree with his political views but I watched his documentary last night on the War On Drugs and think he's onto something. Occasionally, showbiz star with real personality come along and do make a difference - Jamie Oliver has done it with healthy eating in schools, Joanna Lumley with the Gurkhas and I believe Brand could make a difference with drugs policy.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Mellotron

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Jul 2, 2008
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The main argument against Russell Brand trying to do good things basically boils down to;

"He's not perfect himself."

Brilliant. Well done. I'm sure he's not aware of that.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Albion Dan

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Jul 8, 2003
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The witchunt for Brand is pathetic and driven by an agenda from the media that he is exposing as complicit in most of societies problems. The best thing about it all is it is giving him and his views far more exposure than he could ever muster on his own. Also, he doesnt give a toss what they have to say which is winding them up even more.

Bravo Brand. :clap2:
 






Herr Tubthumper

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The withunt for Brand is pathetic and driven by an agenda from the media that he is exposing as complicit in most of societies problems.

Very much this.
 


Tooting Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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It probably wasn't worth sharing, on balance. One person's lunch is frankly irrelevant. I kept thinking there was going to be a punchline, that he was a diabetic or something and Brand's actions in delaying his meal landed him in hospital...but no. Just a load of old bollox.

As said on the #bbcqt thread, I don't like Brand much - call it a pathological dislike of needy attention-seekers - but I do agree with some of what he says. Like so many before him who take on the establishment, their strategy is to undermine and smear rather than win the actual argument.

It is a back-handed compliment because if the establishment (including most of the media) weren't afraid of him, they would ignore him.
 




symyjym

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Nov 2, 2009
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Brighton / Hove actually
Missing the point - he's not encouraging people not to vote, he's saying there is no one worth voting for that would make any difference to ordinary people's lives.

I don't necessarily agree with that but at the same time he's highlighting well the pathetic choice we are given each election.

Sorry LI, you are the one missing the point. If he really wanted change he would tell his fans to vote Green as they are close to what he is preaching

No one trusts politics and with the age of the internet we are all a lot wiser to it, but Brand has jumped on the Bandwagon of thinkers who have written his script light years ahead of him. It's all borrowed and mashed together and he his more like Secondhand Brand.

Him telling me that the world and politics is corrupt is preaching to the converted and I don’t need to be told this by someone who has just woken up to it 18 months ago.
 


dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
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It probably wasn't worth sharing, on balance. One person's lunch is frankly irrelevant. I kept thinking there was going to be a punchline, that he was a diabetic or something and Brand's actions in delaying his meal landed him in hospital...but no. Just a load of old bollox.

As said on the #bbcqt thread, I don't like Brand much - call it a pathological dislike of needy attention-seekers - but I do agree with some of what he says. Like so many before him who take on the establishment, their strategy is to undermine and smear rather than win the actual argument.

It is a back-handed compliment because if the establishment (including most of the media) weren't afraid of him, they would ignore him.

I guess it was as it's prompted a range of views.....it does go on a bit though.

I share your views re Brand. Interested to see how far he takes politics.
 








Dick Head

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Jan 3, 2010
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It was paella, by the way. From Fernando's in Devonshire Row. I highly recommend them: their food is frankly just fantastic.

When it's hot.

It really wasn't worth the effort for that punch line.
 




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