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beardy gull

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Jul 18, 2003
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Just started again this week after long gap. Totally agree about the slow start. Doing 3 runs a week hopefully. Now, do I get a ipod nike + thingummyjig and if so where from??
Marathon next year *gulp*
 




Skint Gull

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Jul 27, 2003
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Watchin the boats go by


Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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Well, running is pretty hard work, and when you can start going distances of 5-10-15 miles then it's quite an achievement. As much as I know cycling is excellent exercise I would see it as a way of getting from A-B better than the bus rather than just going out for a ride, whereas you don't really run into town.

25mph? that's more than just cruising!

I work with a couple of 3 hour marathon runners, whom I have this discussion with, regularly.
I guess I'm saying it just seems plenty of people say:-
'right I'm going to get fit, I'm off for a run'.

When in fact it's the last thing they should be doing.
Being a postie, cyclist & dog walker, I'm out and about, and see so many joggers (not runners, as I've been told many times), just looking in so much pain. Which I can't see the enjoyment of.

My point made all the more clearer to me, with what I said earlier.
25 mph, on a still day, during a relatively flat ride, is cruising, when on a half decent road bike.
After you've put the time and effort, comparable to being able to comfortably jog 5 miles.
 


Skint Gull

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Jul 27, 2003
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Calculate Calories Burned Cycling, Running, Walking, Etc.

This table would indicate that cycling at 25mph is hardly 'cruising' as it is burning a shit lot more calories per hour than most people would burn running. I think maybe your 25mph is a tad optimistic.

I think it's simply a case of time. I often get home from work at 7pm, there is no way on earth i'm gonna go on a 'crusing' bike ride for a couple of hours. By the time i've stretched before, run half hour, stretched after, showered and got dressed again it's still taken an hour. A bike ride would be the whole evening.

I'm firmly a believer that you don't get something for nothing in this world. If you run hard for half hour, swim hard for half hour, cycle hard for half hour it will do more or less the same for your body's fitness. The difference is cycling 'can' be more relaxing if you take it slower and have the time to do so.
 


Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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Fair comment, although the 25mph was spot on, as that was the thing we were laughing and joking about.
I guess the 'ease' in which you can do something mirrors the effort you have already put in.
If those figures are right, my burn, going up hill would be through the roof :lol:
 




smudge

Up the Albion!
Jul 8, 2003
7,376
On the ocean wave
I'm a runner, I love it; I don't cause anyone any problems. I'm fit, healthy, wearing pretty well for my age.

So, when the JFK's (Johhny Fat Knackers) start going on about "I don't get running, blah blah etc" I just laugh at the overweight, sweaty, useless lard arse fuckers.

I do get the strain on the NHS caused by binge drinking fat batards who don't exercise.
 


Tim Over Whelmed

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Jul 24, 2007
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I use a Garmin 405 and it has changed my running. As we all are I guess I am very competitive and can't just run, I have to know how far I've run and in what time, it's just what motivates me.

I did suffer with the early running bit and then started reading about mental strength as well as physical strength ... it changed my attitude to planning my running completely and I saw the early part as a achllenge like a hill or a target time etc.

I'm only a plodder and nearly 50 but really enjoy getting out and challenging myself, its' great!

Keep on running!

Maybe people on here should link up through Garmin!
 


gullshark

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Dec 5, 2005
3,081
Worthing
One thing I do dislike about running is the bloody cyclists who are riding down the promenade and do their best to mow into me, can they not read the NO CYCLING paint and signs on every lamppost?

Long story short, I like running / jogging (whatever you want to call it) and yes, it is hard work but that's just part of the territory. I like the ability to put my headphones on and go for 5 miles or so as it can really clear your mind sometimes - plus as long as you have some trainers you can jog, some people can't afford to splash too much on a bike.
 




Stat Brother

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I doubt I'm helping myself here.
As for all I know I'm talking to the 5-10% of RUNNERS I see out, who are good at what they do and are enjoying it.

My issue is with the rest who Smudge, didn't but might as well have, described as JFK's (I include myself in that) who have just put on a pair of plimsoles and think they are Paula Radcliffe.
Running is not for me, my ankles, shins, or knees.

I guess you can hide it easier on a bike or in the pool.
But the look of desperation and self pity these people have when trudging up to me, just makes me want to point out, they would be better off doing something/anything else.

For the record, the cycling time in question, one of us was on an entry level Boardman, brought on the cycling2work scheme, so it came in at less than £500 inc £100 to spend on accessories, all paid back in installments.
(Just don't ask about the other 2 bikes :lol:)
 




Lady Whistledown

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Jul 7, 2003
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Incidentally, I hate running, probably to do with the lack of perceived progress in my mind. At least with cycling I feel like I'm actually going somewhere, whereas with running it takes ages to cover any decent ground, and I just don't have the patience.

The only time I don't mind it is on the treadmill at the gym when something good's on TV, like the Ashes cricket or whatever, so I can just plug in the earphones, tune in to the right channel, and run for ages without actually thinking about how far I've run or how boring it is.
 




tedebear

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Jul 7, 2003
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But the look of desperation and self pity these people have when trudging up to me, just makes me want to point out, they would be better off doing something/anything else.

See the funny thing is even thought I look like some has squeezed the life out of me and run me through with a hot poker, I actually enjoy running (when I'm finished :laugh: ) so maybe you should stop assuming we aren't enjoying ourselves? :lol:

Personally speaking I wouldn't go within 10 feet of a bike, wouldn't, couldn't can't and won't, abhorent things...
 


m20gull

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Jun 10, 2004
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Land of the Chavs
I was a weak and feeble asthmatic at school and spent my adult life eating, boozing and sitting around until last year when at 46 I started running - and, so my absolute astonishment, I loved it. I said that if I didn't enjoy it I would stop, but it was great. I would always be running along with a smile on my face (though the video of me finishing a half marathon shows a fairly weak smile!).

It is true that you do see a lot of people who don't look like they're enjoying it and that I don't get. Why do it? Why not find something you do enjoy?

Then I injured my knee and haven't run for nearly a year. So I am cycling and swimming to keep fit until the knee gets better - hoping that it does. I find both of them hard work and no where near as enjoyable. In both cases I never reach that relaxed state of running effortlessly. I can swim 1500m or cycle 25 miles and have to work all the time.

Knee permitting i hope to take part in a triathlon in September so I am going to have to find a way of enjoying the water and the bike!
 


Stat Brother

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See the funny thing is even thought I look like some has squeezed the life out of me and run me through with a hot poker, I actually enjoy running (when I'm finished :laugh: ) so maybe you should stop assuming we aren't enjoying ourselves? :lol:
Yeah I am kind of getting that.
Not fully understanding, but am getting it.
I truely wasn't trying to be all, 'look at me, I'm a forum billy big boll*cks'. (not my style)

Just the simple fact in my world you can get yourself really fit, without looking like death.
 




Cecil

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Feb 8, 2008
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Heathfield
I can't run because of knee problems but similar thing occurs when I swim. First couple of lengths are fine but between 5 and 10 it is a struggle but after that comfortable swim upto 1800m. I think you'll find it is just about getting into a rythm and blowing the cobwebs away.

1 - 8 lengths are the toughest for me. I swim the next 42 after without a problem.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,953
Surrey
I've been running for around 10 years and do 3x8 mile runs a week. Totally agree with the first 5-10 minutes being a drag.......I'm sure it's as much a mental barrier as physical. Overall though I really enjoy it and that's what keeps me going.

As for gadgets, I've got my trusty Ipod but nothing else. I have a number of runs where I've measured the distance using a map and ruler: 6, 8 and 9 miles. I can add measured loops on for further distance. One was a bit tricky so I drove the course in a car to get the distance.
I'm much the same as this. I started running in 1995 and have run quite consistently about 3 or 4 x 6 miles weekly (along with 5 a side football, 20 miles a week on the bike and occasionally some touch rugby). Often the first 5 to ten mins can be a nightmare in terms of motivation but often you find yourself absolutely flying after about 15 mins.

I tend to use mapmyrun.com to map my routes with precise distances, and I'll time my run depending on what I want to achieve. I am getting a HRM for my birthday which should help with my whole whole aerobic/anaerobic targets!
 


Tricky Dicky

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Jul 27, 2004
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Sunny Shoreham
I've been running (well, jogging really) for about 16 weeks now. I'm only doing treadmill stuff at the mo, which I believe is not proper running if you're a purist, but it suits me as I have one at home anyway. I'm not at all built for running, and I've never been able to do it, but I've managed to get up to an hour non-stop ok now, although I've dropped that back a little while I get my pace up a bit. Not really sure if I actually enjoy it - I think I do, but definitely enjoy afterwards. 10-12 miles a week at the mo.
 


CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,097
What do you lot find best to WEAR. I'm doing 10ks about thrice a week now (building up for a half marathon) and I'm a sweaty fucker. Probably need a technical t shirt but I reckon football shorts must be okay, no?

Running for REMF in the Royal Parks Half Marathon aren't I.
 




seagullwedgee

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Aug 9, 2005
3,069
I've just taken delivery of my 305, will take me most of the wekend to read the 62 page instruction book!!
 


beardy gull

Well-known member
Jul 18, 2003
4,125
Portslade
I've just taken delivery of my 305, will take me most of the wekend to read the 62 page instruction book!!

Got mine last week. First run with it on yesterday. You can pretty much put it on and off you go. Will read the many functions in due course.
Great recommendation Skint Gull. Thanks.
 


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