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Revolution in Egypt



Elvis

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Mar 22, 2010
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Viva Las Hove
First Tunisia, now Egypt!

Do we think this will totally spire across the region. Good post earlier stating that of 23 countries in the Middle East only one is democraticly run.

If it does spire where next? and also what do you Israel is making of all this?
 




On a serious note,how would a change of government impact on the west ? Are these uprisings in the arab world about freedom or fundamentalism ?

It's probably just as important to worry about what the impact will be on neighbouring Sudan. And what the knock-on effect might be on the soon to be independent Southern Sudan.
 






Mammoth

Kickin' back
Jan 28, 2011
285
Manchester Ship Canal
Muslim Brotherhood is the main opposition in Egypt and their supporters range from moderate islamic democrats to Hamas/ Islamic Jihad supporting nutters. The scary thing is the membership has a huge proportion of graduates- these people have thought about what they want and they don't give a flying feck as to what Hague says. Israel will be worried tho- a change in leadership could see a ripping up of Anwar Sadat's peace treaty and then the region is screwed.
Not a good time to head to Sharm-al-Sheik lol
 




seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,943
Crap Town
Is the opposition politician mohammed el baradei the same bloke who was in the UN nuclear inspection team in iraq ?

If he was good mates with Dr David Kelly his days are numbered :wink:
 


Lord/B. What could we be looking at ?

In Sudan - I really don't know.

It just seems to me that the current Sudanese government has been truly magnanimous in granting the population of the south a right to a referendum on independence, thereby opening the door to the undoing of one of the biggest absurdities left behind as a legacy of British colonial rule - almost as bad as the idea that Iraq was, in some way, a "nation".

A change in regime in Khartoum might change that.
 


seagullsovergrimsby

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Aug 21, 2005
43,943
Crap Town
I was watching the rioting in Cairo a couple of days ago on Sky News when they interrupted and brought us breaking news that Andy Gray had been sacked.
 




First Tunisia, now Egypt!

Do we think this will totally spire across the region. Good post earlier stating that of 23 countries in the Middle East only one is democraticly run.

If it does spire where next? and also what do you Israel is making of all this?

From an Israeli stance they want nothing more than democratic & friendly neighbours. As I said earlier Israel is a little oasis in the Middle East. The world is becoming smaller & the Egyptian government can turn off the Internet but this cannot last for long & so long as most in the Islamic & Arab worlds are downtrodden by their own people & see what their European standard of living & life is like, it is only natural to have similar expectations.
 


brunswick

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Aug 13, 2004
2,920
some of u seem to think it is democratic in the uk and usa......lol. 9/11, bankers rule...it is worse in the west than in any other country because they sell the illusion of freedom.
 














BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,201
From an Israeli stance they want nothing more than democratic & friendly neighbours. As I said earlier Israel is a little oasis in the Middle East. The world is becoming smaller & the Egyptian government can turn off the Internet but this cannot last for long & so long as most in the Islamic & Arab worlds are downtrodden by their own people & see what their European standard of living & life is like, it is only natural to have similar expectations.

I'm sure Palestinians will disagree with with notion!

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3499.htm
 


Tyrone Biggums

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Jun 25, 2006
13,498
Geelong, Australia
As long as the power shifts to a secular democratic party it's a good thing.

If it allows more power to be placed into the hands of harder lined Islamic types then Egypt will go down the shiter.
 


Giraffe

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Aug 8, 2005
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Spent some time in Cairo a few years ago. Good people who even then wanted a change. Seems the Tunisia example has finally given them the balls to do it. Amazing scenes really. Poor people with nothing to lose.
 






Castello

Castello
May 28, 2009
432
Tottenham
From an Israeli stance they want nothing more than democratic & friendly neighbours. As I said earlier Israel is a little oasis in the Middle East. The world is becoming smaller & the Egyptian government can turn off the Internet but this cannot last for long & so long as most in the Islamic & Arab worlds are downtrodden by their own people & see what their European standard of living & life is like, it is only natural to have similar expectations.

AS Viney says I'm sure the palestinian people see Israel as more a cess pool than an oasis. And Israel has for years been stirring up tension amongst its neighbours with the objective of keeping them divided. Hardly the promoters of democracy you make them out to be.
 




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